Comments on: It happened. http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/it-happened/ European Opinion Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:39:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Michael S http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/it-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-6102 Michael S Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:34:39 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/wordpress/?p=1002#comment-6102 I wonder if ending up in emergency rooms might make international election observers in eastern Ukraine feel less welcome to stick around for a re-vote. I wonder if ending up in emergency rooms might make international election observers in eastern Ukraine feel less welcome to stick around for a re-vote.

]]> By: FH http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/it-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-6101 FH Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:18:17 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/wordpress/?p=1002#comment-6101 David, I too have wondered if that is what is happening. The possible presence of Russian auxilaries has been the biggest indicator of what may come. David, I too have wondered if that is what is happening. The possible presence of Russian auxilaries has been the biggest indicator of what may come.

]]> By: David All http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/it-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-6100 David All Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:11:53 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/wordpress/?p=1002#comment-6100 More and more this is sounding like a replay of Hungary in 1956 where Khruschav carried our fake negotiations with the rebel leaders to give him time to bring in the massive force of troops needed to crush the rebellion. All this bargaining over whether there should be new elections and with what changes, etec. and waiting for the Ukrainian Court to rule on election fraud etec. looks like the same plan as in Hungary in 1956. To distract people and give Putin and Kuchma time to bring in enough reliable Ukrainian and Russian troops to crush the opposition or so Putin and Kuchma may believe they can. Remember Putin is a KGB Colonel who follows in the pattern set by his predecssors and he is determined to bring the Ukraine back under Russia's control as the first step in rebuilding the Soviet Empire. Kuchma has very strong reasons not to give up power to the opposition, including the desire not to be tried for the murder of an opposition journalist in 2000. Whether such a coup could succeed is questionable. It might result in full scale civil war as the attempted military coup in Spain did in 1936. I pray that I am wrong in thinking this is Putin and Kuchma's plan. More and more this is sounding like a replay of Hungary in 1956 where Khruschav carried our fake negotiations with the rebel leaders to give him time to bring in the massive force of troops needed to crush the rebellion. All this bargaining over whether there should be new elections and with what changes, etec. and waiting for the Ukrainian Court to rule on election fraud etec. looks like the same plan as in Hungary in 1956. To distract people and give Putin and Kuchma time to bring in enough reliable Ukrainian and Russian troops to crush the opposition or so Putin and Kuchma may believe they can. Remember Putin is a KGB Colonel who follows in the pattern set by his predecssors and he is determined to bring the Ukraine back under Russia’s control as the first step in rebuilding the Soviet Empire. Kuchma has very strong reasons not to give up power to the opposition, including the desire not to be tried for the murder of an opposition journalist in 2000. Whether such a coup could succeed is questionable. It might result in full scale civil war as the attempted military coup in Spain did in 1936. I pray that I am wrong in thinking this is Putin and Kuchma’s plan.

]]> By: Daniel http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/it-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-6099 Daniel Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:09:05 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/wordpress/?p=1002#comment-6099 The 5th channel is giving this quite a bit of coverage now, which is good. Apparently there were some journalist which were beaten as well as a Canadian volunteer. The 5th channel is giving this quite a bit of coverage now, which is good.

Apparently there were some journalist which were beaten as well as a Canadian volunteer.

]]> By: Mishael S http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/it-happened/comment-page-1/#comment-6098 Mishael S Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:09:03 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/wordpress/?p=1002#comment-6098 Here's a brief report on the incident attributed to AFP. Russian newswire has hospital confirmation that a Canadian volunteer from the John Howard Society has been admitted with cranial injuries. A Ukranian wire report says they were "severe" and required surgery. The same report quotes a press briefing from the Lugansk regional administration/police department which claims that Yushchenko's supporters attacked a pro-Yanukovych rally and disappeared before they could be detained. The agency had a reporter on the scene, and she is said to have suffered serious injuries. Here’s a brief report on the incident attributed to AFP. Russian newswire has hospital confirmation that a Canadian volunteer from the John Howard Society has been admitted with cranial injuries. A Ukranian wire report says they were “severe” and required surgery. The same report quotes a press briefing from the Lugansk regional administration/police department which claims that Yushchenko’s supporters attacked a pro-Yanukovych rally and disappeared before they could be detained. The agency had a reporter on the scene, and she is said to have suffered serious injuries.

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