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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2004 19:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was walking down Holland Park Avenue in London where the Ukrainian embassy is located and there was another huge protest last night. This was about 8pm, and I&#039;d say there was 500 people at least. A policeman told me that this was nothing compared to earlier in the day. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was walking down Holland Park Avenue in London where the Ukrainian embassy is located and there was another huge protest last night. This was about 8pm, and I&#8217;d say there was 500 people at least. A policeman told me that this was nothing compared to earlier in the day.</p>
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		<title>By: DoDo</title>
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		<dc:creator>DoDo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2004 17:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, David, very interesting inputs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, David, very interesting inputs!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2004 08:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It becomes more and more apparent that - for all the power the protesters lend to Yushenko - they also significantly narrow down his mandate in negotiations.

Indeed, Yushcheko faces a difficult balancing act between his mandate as the leader of a popular uprising and the political constraints. I think this is a dilemma that faces the opposition as a whole. The visceral impulse that brings people onto the streets has rejection as its main component. It demands victory rather than compromise. But the opposition isn&#039;t a revolutionary movement, at least in its present (and I hope future) form. It can&#039;t make use of its numbers directly, that is, in their capacity to apply or threaten violence. It can only harness them to press for a more advantageous consensus, within the paramaters of law, international acceptance -- plain Realpolitik, above all.

That, inescapably, spells out a contradiction. Yesterday, Ukrayinska Pravda (an openly partisan but, in context, quite moderate source, whose English site contains only a fraction of its lovely Ukrainian/Russian contents) published the first editorial I&#039;ve seen there to criticise Yushchenko in bluntly harsh terms, taking him to task for making deals and mobilizing crowds without using them for direct action (&quot;. . . From the very start of the &#039;orange revolution&#039; there were two things that surprised the most: the immense courage of the rallying people and the sometimes complete irresponsibility of their leaders.&quot;)

On Neeka&#039;s blog, Veronica Khokhlova  analyzed her own reactions.

I thought today&#039;s Ukrayinska Pravda story about Tymoshenko&#039;s speech on Independence Square nicely captured the challenge and predicament of having people stand in the snow just to lend leverage for backroom deals:

&quot;They want to flush Yanukovych down the toilet and find another candidate -- Tyhipko or Kuchma himself. Kuchma thinks that the people are falling in love with him lately. And now he&#039;s gone to Moscow to decide whom to nominate.&quot; 

&quot;For shame!&quot;, - answered the Square. &quot;For shame, you got it! No doubt&quot;, - replied Tymoshenko.

She quipped that maybe Kuchma traveled to ask Putin to congratulate Yanukovych one more time.

Tymoshenko also asked the people to remain on the Square until final victory. &quot;God forbid a single person should leave the square -- Kuchma will immediately sense it with every fibre of his body.&quot;

It&#039;s only thanks to the people that Yanukovych&#039;s resignation was won, she said.

&quot;Will you be able to hold out until Yushchenko is declared president?&quot;, - asked Tymoshenko. &quot;Tak!!!&quot; - answered the Square.

. . .

Yurii Lutsenko, who took the word after her, told the crowd that Friday&#039;s action was very important. &quot;Yesterday was our Stalingrad! Tomorrow will be our Kursk!&quot;  - he said.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It becomes more and more apparent that &#8211; for all the power the protesters lend to Yushenko &#8211; they also significantly narrow down his mandate in negotiations.</p>
<p>Indeed, Yushcheko faces a difficult balancing act between his mandate as the leader of a popular uprising and the political constraints. I think this is a dilemma that faces the opposition as a whole. The visceral impulse that brings people onto the streets has rejection as its main component. It demands victory rather than compromise. But the opposition isn&#8217;t a revolutionary movement, at least in its present (and I hope future) form. It can&#8217;t make use of its numbers directly, that is, in their capacity to apply or threaten violence. It can only harness them to press for a more advantageous consensus, within the paramaters of law, international acceptance &#8212; plain Realpolitik, above all.</p>
<p>That, inescapably, spells out a contradiction. Yesterday, Ukrayinska Pravda (an openly partisan but, in context, quite moderate source, whose English site contains only a fraction of its lovely Ukrainian/Russian contents) published the first editorial I&#8217;ve seen there to criticise Yushchenko in bluntly harsh terms, taking him to task for making deals and mobilizing crowds without using them for direct action (&#8220;. . . From the very start of the &#8216;orange revolution&#8217; there were two things that surprised the most: the immense courage of the rallying people and the sometimes complete irresponsibility of their leaders.&#8221;)</p>
<p>On Neeka&#8217;s blog, Veronica Khokhlova  analyzed her own reactions.</p>
<p>I thought today&#8217;s Ukrayinska Pravda story about Tymoshenko&#8217;s speech on Independence Square nicely captured the challenge and predicament of having people stand in the snow just to lend leverage for backroom deals:</p>
<p>&#8220;They want to flush Yanukovych down the toilet and find another candidate &#8212; Tyhipko or Kuchma himself. Kuchma thinks that the people are falling in love with him lately. And now he&#8217;s gone to Moscow to decide whom to nominate.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;For shame!&#8221;, &#8211; answered the Square. &#8220;For shame, you got it! No doubt&#8221;, &#8211; replied Tymoshenko.</p>
<p>She quipped that maybe Kuchma traveled to ask Putin to congratulate Yanukovych one more time.</p>
<p>Tymoshenko also asked the people to remain on the Square until final victory. &#8220;God forbid a single person should leave the square &#8212; Kuchma will immediately sense it with every fibre of his body.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only thanks to the people that Yanukovych&#8217;s resignation was won, she said.</p>
<p>&#8220;Will you be able to hold out until Yushchenko is declared president?&#8221;, &#8211; asked Tymoshenko. &#8220;Tak!!!&#8221; &#8211; answered the Square.</p>
<p>. . .</p>
<p>Yurii Lutsenko, who took the word after her, told the crowd that Friday&#8217;s action was very important. &#8220;Yesterday was our Stalingrad! Tomorrow will be our Kursk!&#8221;  &#8211; he said.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pravda.com.ua" rel="nofollow">http://www.pravda.com.ua</a></p>
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		<title>By: David F.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2004 06:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Guardian:

Students go green in plea for peace

A new colour has emerged in Ukraine&#039;s polarised political spectrum. Students in Kharkov, worried by the escalating confrontation between Viktor Yushchenko&#039;s orange revolutionaries and the blue-and-white supporters of Viktor Yanukovich, have established a &quot;green&quot; movement called We Are for Peace! with the aim of bringing the two sides together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Guardian:</p>
<p>Students go green in plea for peace</p>
<p>A new colour has emerged in Ukraine&#8217;s polarised political spectrum. Students in Kharkov, worried by the escalating confrontation between Viktor Yushchenko&#8217;s orange revolutionaries and the blue-and-white supporters of Viktor Yanukovich, have established a &#8220;green&#8221; movement called We Are for Peace! with the aim of bringing the two sides together.</p>
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