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		<title>By: bert</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/transition-and-accession/enlargement-fatigue/#comment-13871</link>
		<dc:creator>bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very big deal: Merkel moots 'privileged partnership' for Balkans

Germany was by far the most important force behind the first eastern enlargement. Who's now keeping the door open? Britain's support follows a widening vs deepening logic, and is in many circles discounted accordingly. Anyone else?
Arguments over Turkey I can understand. But to shut the door on part of continental Europe is a massive retreat. A formal process to eventual membership ought to be maintained; 'privileged partnership' shouldn't become an alternative, second-order endpoint. To go down that route is a short term soft option that will lead to grave problems down the road.
Should we invest some hope in the diplomatic fudging reported in the linked article?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very big deal: Merkel moots &#8216;privileged partnership&#8217; for Balkans</p>
<p>Germany was by far the most important force behind the first eastern enlargement. Who&#8217;s now keeping the door open? Britain&#8217;s support follows a widening vs deepening logic, and is in many circles discounted accordingly. Anyone else?<br />
Arguments over Turkey I can understand. But to shut the door on part of continental Europe is a massive retreat. A formal process to eventual membership ought to be maintained; &#8216;privileged partnership&#8217; shouldn&#8217;t become an alternative, second-order endpoint. To go down that route is a short term soft option that will lead to grave problems down the road.<br />
Should we invest some hope in the diplomatic fudging reported in the linked article?</p>
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		<title>By: Charly</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/transition-and-accession/enlargement-fatigue/#comment-13870</link>
		<dc:creator>Charly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But if you have a law than that points to something fishy. it is more of an acknowledgement than you would otherwise expect</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if you have a law than that points to something fishy. it is more of an acknowledgement than you would otherwise expect</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Armenian genocide --&gt; Turks were evil
French colonial history --&gt; French were evil

And the Dutch and the British and the Belgians (through their king Leopold II) and the Germans (WWII), etc.

The point, right now, is in recognizing the atrocities committed. As Peter said, "There's a major difference between a law that requires certain things in the school curriculum and a law that makes it a crime to mention a dark episode in the nation's past."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Armenian genocide &#8211;> Turks were evil<br />
French colonial history &#8211;> French were evil</p>
<p>And the Dutch and the British and the Belgians (through their king Leopold II) and the Germans (WWII), etc.</p>
<p>The point, right now, is in recognizing the atrocities committed. As Peter said, &#8220;There&#8217;s a major difference between a law that requires certain things in the school curriculum and a law that makes it a crime to mention a dark episode in the nation&#8217;s past.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Charly</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/transition-and-accession/enlargement-fatigue/#comment-13868</link>
		<dc:creator>Charly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, you are right about the UK, Belgium and Germany. But the US is slowly being pushed out of old Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, you are right about the UK, Belgium and Germany. But the US is slowly being pushed out of old Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: Charly</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/transition-and-accession/enlargement-fatigue/#comment-13867</link>
		<dc:creator>Charly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Armenian genocide --&gt; Turks were evil
French colonial history --&gt; French were evil

I think they are exactly alike. In fairness the Armenian genocide is less evil (it is more if not them than us unlike what France did in its colonies)</description>
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French colonial history &#8211;> French were evil</p>
<p>I think they are exactly alike. In fairness the Armenian genocide is less evil (it is more if not them than us unlike what France did in its colonies)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"the French have a law on their book that state that the teaching of their colonial history should point to their good deeds so Turkey fits right in."

There's a major difference between a law that requires certain things in the school curriculum and a law that makes it a crime to mention a dark episode in the nation's past.  Turkey's criminalization of Armenian-genocide discussion is a significant infringement on free speech.  Whatever else may happen, I do not see how the EU could accept Turkey as a member with that law on its books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the French have a law on their book that state that the teaching of their colonial history should point to their good deeds so Turkey fits right in.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a major difference between a law that requires certain things in the school curriculum and a law that makes it a crime to mention a dark episode in the nation&#8217;s past.  Turkey&#8217;s criminalization of Armenian-genocide discussion is a significant infringement on free speech.  Whatever else may happen, I do not see how the EU could accept Turkey as a member with that law on its books.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at it from an French perspective and the answer is clear.

Sorry, I can't quite see how the Balkans are a staging post for Britain, the US, Germany or Belgium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at it from an French perspective and the answer is clear.</p>
<p>Sorry, I can&#8217;t quite see how the Balkans are a staging post for Britain, the US, Germany or Belgium.</p>
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		<title>By: Charly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at it from an French perspective and the answer is clear.</description>
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		<title>By: Charly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China is to far, Russia is to near so who is left?</description>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"staging posts for our greatest enemy"

Malawi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;staging posts for our greatest enemy&#8221;</p>
<p>Malawi?</p>
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