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		<title>By: Doug M.</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/the-european-union/waiting-with-baited-breath/#comment-12335</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some googling turns up this:  "Mr Douste-Blazy added, however, that France was committed to giving the entire Western Balkans a long-term EU membership perspective."

Hmm.

-- It's a tightrope walk.  Slowing the process might be OK.  But slow it too much, and people in the region lose hope.  A longer wait now, plus a referendum with an unknowable outcome: at some point, people make a rational calculation and say, well, this game's just not worth the candle.

To be clear: I got NO problem with holding candidates' feet to the fire on compliance issues.  Double especially on things like war crimes and human rights.

But this is screwed.

-- Complete agreement that it's about the NON vote.  The Dutch are in on it too, to some extent:

"Dutch foreign minister Bernard Bot said he was 'not sure at all' that EU leaders could this week find agreement on the Macedonia status. 

"But he added that a compromise text could entail a firm decoupling of the candidate status from any commitment to open negotiations with Skopje, through the introduction of additional tough conditions for the actual accession talks to kick off. 

"The Netherlands itself, backed by Denmark, is pushing for the inclusion of extra safeguards that the candidate status will not automatically lead to the start of accession talks. 

"'It should be clear that the next step could be very far away', Mr Bot said."

(BTW, where is Henry Farrell talking about this?  I didn't see it over at CT.)


Doug M.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some googling turns up this:  &#8220;Mr Douste-Blazy added, however, that France was committed to giving the entire Western Balkans a long-term EU membership perspective.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm.</p>
<p>&#8211; It&#8217;s a tightrope walk.  Slowing the process might be OK.  But slow it too much, and people in the region lose hope.  A longer wait now, plus a referendum with an unknowable outcome: at some point, people make a rational calculation and say, well, this game&#8217;s just not worth the candle.</p>
<p>To be clear: I got NO problem with holding candidates&#8217; feet to the fire on compliance issues.  Double especially on things like war crimes and human rights.</p>
<p>But this is screwed.</p>
<p>&#8211; Complete agreement that it&#8217;s about the NON vote.  The Dutch are in on it too, to some extent:</p>
<p>&#8220;Dutch foreign minister Bernard Bot said he was &#8216;not sure at all&#8217; that EU leaders could this week find agreement on the Macedonia status. </p>
<p>&#8220;But he added that a compromise text could entail a firm decoupling of the candidate status from any commitment to open negotiations with Skopje, through the introduction of additional tough conditions for the actual accession talks to kick off. </p>
<p>&#8220;The Netherlands itself, backed by Denmark, is pushing for the inclusion of extra safeguards that the candidate status will not automatically lead to the start of accession talks. </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;It should be clear that the next step could be very far away&#8217;, Mr Bot said.&#8221;</p>
<p>(BTW, where is Henry Farrell talking about this?  I didn&#8217;t see it over at CT.)</p>
<p>Doug M.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I don't want to sound melodramatic here"

I don't think you're being melodramatic, this is my impression too, but since you know more about this than I do I just wanted to hear you say it.

I think it goes further than the British Cheque and agricultural reform, I think this goes back to the June referendum. Some - like Henry Farrel of Crooked Timber - thought it might be good news. I have always felt it could become a watershed, both for the euro, and for enlargement. I still hope I am proved wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t want to sound melodramatic here&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re being melodramatic, this is my impression too, but since you know more about this than I do I just wanted to hear you say it.</p>
<p>I think it goes further than the British Cheque and agricultural reform, I think this goes back to the June referendum. Some - like Henry Farrel of Crooked Timber - thought it might be good news. I have always felt it could become a watershed, both for the euro, and for enlargement. I still hope I am proved wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't want to sound melodramatic here, but if the French really are going to turn into serious and consistent blockers of expansion -- whether through veto, or simply by voting "no" in referenda -- it's hard to overstate the bad consequences for the Balkans.

EU accession is the major driver for reform and stability in this region.  In some places, it's the *only* driver.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to sound melodramatic here, but if the French really are going to turn into serious and consistent blockers of expansion &#8212; whether through veto, or simply by voting &#8220;no&#8221; in referenda &#8212; it&#8217;s hard to overstate the bad consequences for the Balkans.</p>
<p>EU accession is the major driver for reform and stability in this region.  In some places, it&#8217;s the *only* driver.</p>
<p>Doug M.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sucks.

Macedonia is in no way ready to join the EU, or even to begin accession talks.

But -- they have come a long way.  They the only ethnically mixed piece of the former YU to have avoided a bloody civil war.  They've got their ethnic groups living together in grudging peace and tolerance.  They've had several years of good economic growth.  And you can see (some of) the institutions of law and good government gradually taking hold there.

I visited Skopje recently after several years away.  /Huge/ difference.  Streets had been paved, sidewalks cleaned, shop windows washed and filled with new goods.  And the Holiday Inn is no longer an obvious hangout for creepy gangster bosses and their hulking thugs.

The Macedonians have done everything Europe has asked -- more so, perhaps, than any other country in the region.  They may not be ready for accession talks, but they deserve a shot at starting the process.  They've earned that much.

And now they're going to be screwed over because the current French government wants a piece to play against Britain, and/or a quick shot in the arm for its poll ratings?

That's just... wrong.


Doug M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sucks.</p>
<p>Macedonia is in no way ready to join the EU, or even to begin accession talks.</p>
<p>But &#8212; they have come a long way.  They the only ethnically mixed piece of the former YU to have avoided a bloody civil war.  They&#8217;ve got their ethnic groups living together in grudging peace and tolerance.  They&#8217;ve had several years of good economic growth.  And you can see (some of) the institutions of law and good government gradually taking hold there.</p>
<p>I visited Skopje recently after several years away.  /Huge/ difference.  Streets had been paved, sidewalks cleaned, shop windows washed and filled with new goods.  And the Holiday Inn is no longer an obvious hangout for creepy gangster bosses and their hulking thugs.</p>
<p>The Macedonians have done everything Europe has asked &#8212; more so, perhaps, than any other country in the region.  They may not be ready for accession talks, but they deserve a shot at starting the process.  They&#8217;ve earned that much.</p>
<p>And now they&#8217;re going to be screwed over because the current French government wants a piece to play against Britain, and/or a quick shot in the arm for its poll ratings?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just&#8230; wrong.</p>
<p>Doug M.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"You meant 'bated breath'"

Whoops, thanks for that DHM, yet another clanger. OTOH, under the circumstances I'll leave it, since that is just what is being dangled beneath our noses: bait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You meant &#8216;bated breath&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Whoops, thanks for that DHM, yet another clanger. OTOH, under the circumstances I&#8217;ll leave it, since that is just what is being dangled beneath our noses: bait.</p>
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		<title>By: DHM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DHM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Baited Breath"

Eeewww.

You meant 'bated breath' (it's from abate, as in the winds abated not fish bait)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Baited Breath&#8221;</p>
<p>Eeewww.</p>
<p>You meant &#8216;bated breath&#8217; (it&#8217;s from abate, as in the winds abated not fish bait)</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"French foreign minister Philippe Douste-Blazy may have pulled the plug on the enlargement process itself"

This could get interesting. In order to 'appease' the NON-crowd, and notably those who do not like to see Turkey in the EU, the French have adopted a new law on referendums. After Croatia becomes part of the EU all new accessions will be put to the popular vote.

Apparently, Douste-Blazy is trying to blackmail the UK into accepting a bigger cut in its rebate:En adoptant cette posture défensive, la France accentue sa pression sur la Grande-Bretagne, appelée à faire un effort supplémentaire sur son rabais, afin d'obtenir l'aval de ses partenaires sur le budget. Mais l'intervention du ministre français des Affaires étrangères, hier, à Bruxelles, a été très mal accueillie par les Britanniques, qui parlent d'un «chantage déplacé et malheureux pour les Balkans».While there might be some merit in Douste-Blazy's argument that we cannot even pay for the enlargement by ten, this latest move, if it is indeed blackmail, is entirely misplaced IMHO. It is not right to put a third country in the crosshairs of a budgetary tiff between two member states. I hope the Macedonian delegation has been informed of the strategy and reassured that Chirac, to whom the final decision on its candidacy has been relegated, will give them the green light after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;French foreign minister Philippe Douste-Blazy may have pulled the plug on the enlargement process itself&#8221;</p>
<p>This could get interesting. In order to &#8216;appease&#8217; the NON-crowd, and notably those who do not like to see Turkey in the EU, the French have adopted a new law on referendums. After Croatia becomes part of the EU all new accessions will be put to the popular vote.</p>
<p>Apparently, Douste-Blazy is trying to blackmail the UK into accepting a bigger cut in its rebate:En adoptant cette posture défensive, la France accentue sa pression sur la Grande-Bretagne, appelée à faire un effort supplémentaire sur son rabais, afin d&#8217;obtenir l&#8217;aval de ses partenaires sur le budget. Mais l&#8217;intervention du ministre français des Affaires étrangères, hier, à Bruxelles, a été très mal accueillie par les Britanniques, qui parlent d&#8217;un «chantage déplacé et malheureux pour les Balkans».While there might be some merit in Douste-Blazy&#8217;s argument that we cannot even pay for the enlargement by ten, this latest move, if it is indeed blackmail, is entirely misplaced IMHO. It is not right to put a third country in the crosshairs of a budgetary tiff between two member states. I hope the Macedonian delegation has been informed of the strategy and reassured that Chirac, to whom the final decision on its candidacy has been relegated, will give them the green light after all.</p>
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