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		<title>By: Bert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think 2008 is meaningless? The case against the CAP strengthening, Germany no longer pliable, the principle now established of pacifying rural easterners with regional aid ...?
You may be 100% right, but I'm interested why you're writing it off ahead of time.
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On Segolene Royal, isn't this in part a symptom of the ghastly state of the PS? Given the viciousness with which the various factional chieftains have been hacking lumps off each other since the referendum campaign, a less polarising figure is inevitably attractive. Here's an elegant, soignee, attractive woman, an enarque with an interesting Senegal back-story, who has risen to prominence on the arm of Francois Hollande. She commands no faction and thus does not irreversibly alienate others, keeps her mouth shut at party conferences, can draw on the resources of the leadership. 
Her weaknesses are the flipside of those strengths - no party base, no impressive entourage eager to do favours in exchange for future patronage, no developed programme, an excessive closeness to Hollande, a reliance on his entrenched political position and vulnerability to his varying political fortunes.
I would have thought she's still a long way from a credible challenge, but very conscious of her poll numbers, thinking about it and planning hard. On that score, her current website seems eloquent. 
I've always had a soft spot for Jack Lang myself. 
And realistically, barring a meltdown on the right, wouldn't a PS success be making it into the second round this time?
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Apologies for the long comment.
Like Guy, I'm interested to hear French voices on subjects like this.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think 2008 is meaningless? The case against the CAP strengthening, Germany no longer pliable, the principle now established of pacifying rural easterners with regional aid &#8230;?<br />
You may be 100% right, but I&#8217;m interested why you&#8217;re writing it off ahead of time.<br />
&#8230;<br />
On Segolene Royal, isn&#8217;t this in part a symptom of the ghastly state of the PS? Given the viciousness with which the various factional chieftains have been hacking lumps off each other since the referendum campaign, a less polarising figure is inevitably attractive. Here&#8217;s an elegant, soignee, attractive woman, an enarque with an interesting Senegal back-story, who has risen to prominence on the arm of Francois Hollande. She commands no faction and thus does not irreversibly alienate others, keeps her mouth shut at party conferences, can draw on the resources of the leadership.<br />
Her weaknesses are the flipside of those strengths - no party base, no impressive entourage eager to do favours in exchange for future patronage, no developed programme, an excessive closeness to Hollande, a reliance on his entrenched political position and vulnerability to his varying political fortunes.<br />
I would have thought she&#8217;s still a long way from a credible challenge, but very conscious of her poll numbers, thinking about it and planning hard. On that score, her current website seems eloquent.<br />
I&#8217;ve always had a soft spot for Jack Lang myself.<br />
And realistically, barring a meltdown on the right, wouldn&#8217;t a PS success be making it into the second round this time?<br />
&#8230;<br />
Apologies for the long comment.<br />
Like Guy, I&#8217;m interested to hear French voices on subjects like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting post and discussion. 

"I now tend to think that the arrival of Angela Merkel could be very good news indeed for those of us who want a less dysfunctional and more forward-looking European Union."

I broadly agree, but I think perhaps we should wait awhile before we start uncorking the champagne bottles (or the Catalan Cava).

Rupert has a very valid point. Both Doha and CAP now seem focused on 2014. Curiously the developing countries may be able to sit out this wait better than we can, since they have the future to dream of, whereas we need to reform to keep our systems in tact.

"Never underestimate the capacity of French politics to disappoint."

Quite, and talking of which the rumour mill is working away. This weekend the name  Ségolène Royal seems to have been going the rounds. Any thoughts?

Sarkozy has apparently voiced an opinion: "I've always said Ségolène Royal is the most interesting figure in the Socialist party," 

Does he mean, the most interesting, or the most interesting for him to beat? Are we really talking about the serious possibility of Sarko vs Sego in 2007?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting post and discussion. </p>
<p>&#8220;I now tend to think that the arrival of Angela Merkel could be very good news indeed for those of us who want a less dysfunctional and more forward-looking European Union.&#8221;</p>
<p>I broadly agree, but I think perhaps we should wait awhile before we start uncorking the champagne bottles (or the Catalan Cava).</p>
<p>Rupert has a very valid point. Both Doha and CAP now seem focused on 2014. Curiously the developing countries may be able to sit out this wait better than we can, since they have the future to dream of, whereas we need to reform to keep our systems in tact.</p>
<p>&#8220;Never underestimate the capacity of French politics to disappoint.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quite, and talking of which the rumour mill is working away. This weekend the name  Ségolène Royal seems to have been going the rounds. Any thoughts?</p>
<p>Sarkozy has apparently voiced an opinion: &#8220;I&#8217;ve always said Ségolène Royal is the most interesting figure in the Socialist party,&#8221; </p>
<p>Does he mean, the most interesting, or the most interesting for him to beat? Are we really talking about the serious possibility of Sarko vs Sego in 2007?</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Emmanuel. And I am glad to have a French voice on AFOE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Emmanuel. And I am glad to have a French voice on AFOE.</p>
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		<title>By: rjw</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One might say that this fight has at least given the Commission a mandate to be a little more radical that they otherwise would have been in looking at what the Financial Perspective post 2014 will look like. That's the good news. 

The bad news is that we have to wait till 2014 for any radical change (if then). The CAP soldiers on like a crotte de chien on your sole you can't get rid of. Bussereau was reported today as saying, in Hong Kong, that the money agreed for the CAP in this deal was 

"le meilleur resultat obtenu parmi toutes les categories de dépenses"

Barrosso was also reported today as saying that the deal has salvaged Europe's credibility. Well... sorry.... but when everyone is talking about the need to modernise and dynamise Europe, and then the outcome is a financial framework that carrys on spending half the budget on the CAP up to 2014...  need I say more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One might say that this fight has at least given the Commission a mandate to be a little more radical that they otherwise would have been in looking at what the Financial Perspective post 2014 will look like. That&#8217;s the good news. </p>
<p>The bad news is that we have to wait till 2014 for any radical change (if then). The CAP soldiers on like a crotte de chien on your sole you can&#8217;t get rid of. Bussereau was reported today as saying, in Hong Kong, that the money agreed for the CAP in this deal was </p>
<p>&#8220;le meilleur resultat obtenu parmi toutes les categories de dépenses&#8221;</p>
<p>Barrosso was also reported today as saying that the deal has salvaged Europe&#8217;s credibility. Well&#8230; sorry&#8230;. but when everyone is talking about the need to modernise and dynamise Europe, and then the outcome is a financial framework that carrys on spending half the budget on the CAP up to 2014&#8230;  need I say more?</p>
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		<title>By: Bert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 06:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claus, something else to put in the balance when judging the UK presidency: a membership process agreed for Turkey. Not universally popular, to say the least, but undeniably a Blair achievement.
Need I point out that Merkel would have made this much harder had she been around at the time. 

She's had an incredibly good press since the summit, not just in Germany but worldwide. The exasperation with Schroder's spinelessness was part of it I'm sure, but she seems to have been effective in heading off the very real prospect of a wrecking alliance between France and Poland.

That said, these high hopes are based on a small amount of evidence thus far. Let's see ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claus, something else to put in the balance when judging the UK presidency: a membership process agreed for Turkey. Not universally popular, to say the least, but undeniably a Blair achievement.<br />
Need I point out that Merkel would have made this much harder had she been around at the time. </p>
<p>She&#8217;s had an incredibly good press since the summit, not just in Germany but worldwide. The exasperation with Schroder&#8217;s spinelessness was part of it I&#8217;m sure, but she seems to have been effective in heading off the very real prospect of a wrecking alliance between France and Poland.</p>
<p>That said, these high hopes are based on a small amount of evidence thus far. Let&#8217;s see &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 06:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Chirac - 
Good point about 2007, and a plausible theory about why he gave ground on 2008. 

Last week's Journal du Dimanche poll finds only 1% of voters want him to stand again. Take into account the margin of error, and Chirac's support could actually be less than zero.
I had assumed that his long, long years defining himself as the staunchest defender of agricultural self-interest might count for something, and that he would have put up more of a struggle. His concession of a genuine review makes sense though if he has now concluded that he will be out of power when the real concessions are forced on France. We might even give him some credit (as a realistic politician if not a statesman) for recognising that a future leadership might make a better fist of fighting France's corner than he is now capable of making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Chirac -<br />
Good point about 2007, and a plausible theory about why he gave ground on 2008. </p>
<p>Last week&#8217;s Journal du Dimanche poll finds only 1% of voters want him to stand again. Take into account the margin of error, and Chirac&#8217;s support could actually be less than zero.<br />
I had assumed that his long, long years defining himself as the staunchest defender of agricultural self-interest might count for something, and that he would have put up more of a struggle. His concession of a genuine review makes sense though if he has now concluded that he will be out of power when the real concessions are forced on France. We might even give him some credit (as a realistic politician if not a statesman) for recognising that a future leadership might make a better fist of fighting France&#8217;s corner than he is now capable of making.</p>
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		<title>By: Emmanuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmanuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 03:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bert : Still better news: the departure of J Chirac.

Assuming his replacement is better. Never underestimate the capacity of French politics to disappoint. 

At any rate, I think the big clincher here is the end of the Chirac-Schröder axis : maybe the "anti-France" axis is better off with a rigid but politically more or less dead French president than with a more reformist but more powerful one. Also important is the fact that Chirac knows now that his dream of a third mandate in 2007 is just that, a dream. Which could have led him to adopt a devil may care attitude when it comes to the budget battles of 2008 or after.

Claus : Perhaps big countries can have good presidencies but the fact remains that Blair's vigorous attempt to shield the rebate is not the best outset to lead these kinds of budgetary negotiations.

I agree. Whether this particular British presidency can be deemed a success is really a judgement call. It depends in some important way on what the budgetary review of 2008 will achieve : would it yield yet another report to be shelved in the Berlaymont library or some major rearrangement of the EU budget(i.e. less PAC)? Part of my (limited) optimism stems from the fact that I think that the second possibility is a lot more likely now than one week ago. 

But maybe I'm wrong (wouldn't be the first time...), since the wording of the agreement is, as usual, very vague, notably as to the date when a new budget structure could come into force (could the financial perpectives be modified mid-exercice?). And it's true, as The Economist points out, that the overall budget is very disappointing when it comes to aid to the new members states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bert : Still better news: the departure of J Chirac.</p>
<p>Assuming his replacement is better. Never underestimate the capacity of French politics to disappoint. </p>
<p>At any rate, I think the big clincher here is the end of the Chirac-Schröder axis : maybe the &#8220;anti-France&#8221; axis is better off with a rigid but politically more or less dead French president than with a more reformist but more powerful one. Also important is the fact that Chirac knows now that his dream of a third mandate in 2007 is just that, a dream. Which could have led him to adopt a devil may care attitude when it comes to the budget battles of 2008 or after.</p>
<p>Claus : Perhaps big countries can have good presidencies but the fact remains that Blair&#8217;s vigorous attempt to shield the rebate is not the best outset to lead these kinds of budgetary negotiations.</p>
<p>I agree. Whether this particular British presidency can be deemed a success is really a judgement call. It depends in some important way on what the budgetary review of 2008 will achieve : would it yield yet another report to be shelved in the Berlaymont library or some major rearrangement of the EU budget(i.e. less PAC)? Part of my (limited) optimism stems from the fact that I think that the second possibility is a lot more likely now than one week ago. </p>
<p>But maybe I&#8217;m wrong (wouldn&#8217;t be the first time&#8230;), since the wording of the agreement is, as usual, very vague, notably as to the date when a new budget structure could come into force (could the financial perpectives be modified mid-exercice?). And it&#8217;s true, as The Economist points out, that the overall budget is very disappointing when it comes to aid to the new members states.</p>
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		<title>By: Claus Vistesen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claus Vistesen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 01:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent post Emmanuel ... 

_"First of all, I think the deal itself offers a weak refutation of the “curse of the big countries” argument made by Doug. Sure, the mere existence of a deal doesn’t provide conclusive proof of success"_

A good point. Perhaps big countries can have good presidencies but the fact remains that Blair's vigorous attempt to shield the rebate is not the best outset to lead these kinds of budgetary negotiations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent post Emmanuel &#8230; </p>
<p>_&#8221;First of all, I think the deal itself offers a weak refutation of the “curse of the big countries” argument made by Doug. Sure, the mere existence of a deal doesn’t provide conclusive proof of success&#8221;_</p>
<p>A good point. Perhaps big countries can have good presidencies but the fact remains that Blair&#8217;s vigorous attempt to shield the rebate is not the best outset to lead these kinds of budgetary negotiations.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 19:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the arrival of Angela Merkel could be very good news indeed for those of us who want a less dysfunctional and more forward-looking European Union

Still better news: the departure of J Chirac.
I hope you're right, and that Merkel might play a valuable part in keeping his eventual successor honest. Schroder's complicity in the 2002 deal was shameful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the arrival of Angela Merkel could be very good news indeed for those of us who want a less dysfunctional and more forward-looking European Union</p>
<p>Still better news: the departure of J Chirac.<br />
I hope you&#8217;re right, and that Merkel might play a valuable part in keeping his eventual successor honest. Schroder&#8217;s complicity in the 2002 deal was shameful.</p>
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