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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/terrorism/new-incidents-in-london/#comment-10084</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And all fail in deployment? Sloppy work. They should have tested spares. And if they didn't have spares, all the more sloppy work.


Testing a bomb is hard to do surreptitiously.  If it draws attention to you before you are ready to do the real thing, it wasn't worth it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And all fail in deployment? Sloppy work. They should have tested spares. And if they didn&#8217;t have spares, all the more sloppy work.</p>
<p>Testing a bomb is hard to do surreptitiously.  If it draws attention to you before you are ready to do the real thing, it wasn&#8217;t worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/terrorism/new-incidents-in-london/#comment-10083</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hiccup in Luton, or somehwere else, may have meant that had to use 'old' explosives.

And all fail in deployment? Sloppy work. They should have tested spares. And if they didn't have spares, all the more sloppy work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hiccup in Luton, or somehwere else, may have meant that had to use &#8216;old&#8217; explosives.</p>
<p>And all fail in deployment? Sloppy work. They should have tested spares. And if they didn&#8217;t have spares, all the more sloppy work.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/terrorism/new-incidents-in-london/#comment-10082</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Poor construction, careless transportation or use of explosives that were past their 'shelf life' could explain why four bombs failed to explode properly on London's transport network on Thursday, experts said.

Yep, this is possible. The hiccup in Luton, or somehwere else, may have meant that had to use 'old' explosives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Poor construction, careless transportation or use of explosives that were past their &#8217;shelf life&#8217; could explain why four bombs failed to explode properly on London&#8217;s transport network on Thursday, experts said.</p>
<p>Yep, this is possible. The hiccup in Luton, or somehwere else, may have meant that had to use &#8216;old&#8217; explosives.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/terrorism/new-incidents-in-london/#comment-10081</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"If the four bombs used today were made up by the same bomber"

This is one of the key issues, my guess is they weren't, but you have a valid point if they were. I don't know enough chemistry, and actually, in this context, I don't want to. Both a little and a lot of knowledge are 'dangerous things'.

"Why assume that the attack failed?"

Well, the reasoning behind this would be in the London incidents update post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the four bombs used today were made up by the same bomber&#8221;</p>
<p>This is one of the key issues, my guess is they weren&#8217;t, but you have a valid point if they were. I don&#8217;t know enough chemistry, and actually, in this context, I don&#8217;t want to. Both a little and a lot of knowledge are &#8216;dangerous things&#8217;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why assume that the attack failed?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the reasoning behind this would be in the London incidents update post.</p>
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		<title>By: c</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/terrorism/new-incidents-in-london/#comment-10080</link>
		<dc:creator>c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why assume that the attack failed? You know that there are four suicide bombers on the loose in London. Would you go on the tube tomorrow? The disruption produced by this failed bombrun is probably higher than the disruption created if the attack had succeeded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why assume that the attack failed? You know that there are four suicide bombers on the loose in London. Would you go on the tube tomorrow? The disruption produced by this failed bombrun is probably higher than the disruption created if the attack had succeeded.</p>
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		<title>By: foreign devil</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/terrorism/new-incidents-in-london/#comment-10079</link>
		<dc:creator>foreign devil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 06:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the four bombs used today were made up by the same bomber but AT THE SAME TIME HE MADE UP THE FIRST FOUR BOMBS, then it's possible the ingredients deteriorated over the two week period and thus the bombs didn't go off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the four bombs used today were made up by the same bomber but AT THE SAME TIME HE MADE UP THE FIRST FOUR BOMBS, then it&#8217;s possible the ingredients deteriorated over the two week period and thus the bombs didn&#8217;t go off.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/terrorism/new-incidents-in-london/#comment-10078</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>although the Egyptian police are saying he had nothing to do with it, and that it was just a strange coincidence that there were explosives in his bath. But then, they may be trying to 'turn' him, so who knows

I can assure you that making a few explosives for fun is not that uncommon among students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>although the Egyptian police are saying he had nothing to do with it, and that it was just a strange coincidence that there were explosives in his bath. But then, they may be trying to &#8216;turn&#8217; him, so who knows</p>
<p>I can assure you that making a few explosives for fun is not that uncommon among students.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/terrorism/new-incidents-in-london/#comment-10077</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dead on. This definitely seems to be a different bombmaker, now why?

The simplest explanation is that this is another group at work.
It seems quite unlikely that the attacks of 14 days earlier were executed by the only group of like minded people in Britain. It is much likelier that there are several which cannot dare to coordinate due to persecution. In this case detective work is made only marginally easier for get only one group of several.
That would suggest that yesterday's attacks were copies only in timing and exact targets and failed due to the rushed nature of the bombing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dead on. This definitely seems to be a different bombmaker, now why?</p>
<p>The simplest explanation is that this is another group at work.<br />
It seems quite unlikely that the attacks of 14 days earlier were executed by the only group of like minded people in Britain. It is much likelier that there are several which cannot dare to coordinate due to persecution. In this case detective work is made only marginally easier for get only one group of several.<br />
That would suggest that yesterday&#8217;s attacks were copies only in timing and exact targets and failed due to the rushed nature of the bombing.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"There's more going on than we're being told (but that's normal)."

Yes, well I think this is fine and understandable, in the end people's lives are at stake. But you have to imagine that some at least of the would-be bombers are on the loose, and they may be feeling desperate. If they were intending to blow themselves up they may not have had a plan b. So who knows where they are, or what they are doing. Their photos can be released in any moment. This is like an old Thomas (Not Tom) Wolf novel title: you can never go home again.

In more general terms I think the UK administration is having to come to terms with the internet age. This really didn't exist in the case of the IRA. With UK press they can stick what used to be called 'D' notices, but obviously means of communication elsewhere can speculate and release names, etc etc. This I think is a real problem for them. OBL will have his equivalent of Langley, and once a name breaks others will be warned. I think events in Egypt and Pakistan must have given particular problems. On the plus side, todays events should make the detective work inside the UK much easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s more going on than we&#8217;re being told (but that&#8217;s normal).&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, well I think this is fine and understandable, in the end people&#8217;s lives are at stake. But you have to imagine that some at least of the would-be bombers are on the loose, and they may be feeling desperate. If they were intending to blow themselves up they may not have had a plan b. So who knows where they are, or what they are doing. Their photos can be released in any moment. This is like an old Thomas (Not Tom) Wolf novel title: you can never go home again.</p>
<p>In more general terms I think the UK administration is having to come to terms with the internet age. This really didn&#8217;t exist in the case of the IRA. With UK press they can stick what used to be called &#8216;D&#8217; notices, but obviously means of communication elsewhere can speculate and release names, etc etc. This I think is a real problem for them. OBL will have his equivalent of Langley, and once a name breaks others will be warned. I think events in Egypt and Pakistan must have given particular problems. On the plus side, todays events should make the detective work inside the UK much easier.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/terrorism/new-incidents-in-london/#comment-10075</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what's with the Piccadilly line being suspended from Heathrow into central London?  There's more going on than we're being told (but that's normal).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what&#8217;s with the Piccadilly line being suspended from Heathrow into central London?  There&#8217;s more going on than we&#8217;re being told (but that&#8217;s normal).</p>
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