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		<title>By: Doug M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the EU has much more &quot;animosity and hostility... toward Muslims&quot; than Russia.  Absolutely.

Normalizing relations and opening the border is a huge plus for Armenia, a much smaller one for Turkey, slightly helpful for Georgia, and, yes, probably a small net minus for Russia.  There are Russian troops in Armenia right now, guarding that border.

Turkey gets about 20% of its total energy from Russian natural gas, BTW -- important, but not &quot;dependent&quot;.

Meanwhile: watch for internal opposition to this deal in Armenia.  It will be couched in nationalistic terms, and some of it really will be, but much will be coming from the &quot;import barons&quot; -- oligarchs who&#039;ve grown very rich on the current situation.


Doug M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the EU has much more &#8220;animosity and hostility&#8230; toward Muslims&#8221; than Russia.  Absolutely.</p>
<p>Normalizing relations and opening the border is a huge plus for Armenia, a much smaller one for Turkey, slightly helpful for Georgia, and, yes, probably a small net minus for Russia.  There are Russian troops in Armenia right now, guarding that border.</p>
<p>Turkey gets about 20% of its total energy from Russian natural gas, BTW &#8212; important, but not &#8220;dependent&#8221;.</p>
<p>Meanwhile: watch for internal opposition to this deal in Armenia.  It will be couched in nationalistic terms, and some of it really will be, but much will be coming from the &#8220;import barons&#8221; &#8212; oligarchs who&#8217;ve grown very rich on the current situation.</p>
<p>Doug M.</p>
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		<title>By: Turkey, Armenia agree on road map to normalize ties &#124; Politics News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turkey, Armenia agree on road map to normalize ties &#124; Politics News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Merrill of &#8220;A Fistful of Euros&#8221; takes a more optimistic tone, noting that Armenia will benefit from normalized relations:  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Merrill of &#8220;A Fistful of Euros&#8221; takes a more optimistic tone, noting that Armenia will benefit from normalized relations:  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mostar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mostar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Normalization is clearly a big win for Armenia.&quot; 

&quot;Also a win at the margins for Georgia, as a larger regional role for Turkey means a relatively lesser role for Russia.&quot;

Fairly dire, and shall I say, baseless comments. Particularly, the second one. As far as I know Russia is second Turkey&#039;s trading partner by dollar amount. Turkey is dependent of Russian&#039;s gas. Turkey President visited Moscow in February with large group of businessmen. Unofficial visit become the red carpet one. Turkey depend on Russian gas. If anyone think that Turkey leadership will trade it&#039;s interest for &quot;smaller&quot; countries than he/she is not serious. Turkey weighting it&#039;s interests between US and Russia, not Armenia or Azerbaijan.

I always wonder what would be political motivation for the country size of Turkey, and Russia for that matter, to enter into imperial project called  EU. Given animosity and hostility which they have toward Muslims, perhaps, they are better off with Russians. It appears they are far more reliable than EU.   

http://www.turkishweekly.net/op-ed/2499/why-should-turkey-normalize-her-relations-with-armenia-.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Normalization is clearly a big win for Armenia.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Also a win at the margins for Georgia, as a larger regional role for Turkey means a relatively lesser role for Russia.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fairly dire, and shall I say, baseless comments. Particularly, the second one. As far as I know Russia is second Turkey&#8217;s trading partner by dollar amount. Turkey is dependent of Russian&#8217;s gas. Turkey President visited Moscow in February with large group of businessmen. Unofficial visit become the red carpet one. Turkey depend on Russian gas. If anyone think that Turkey leadership will trade it&#8217;s interest for &#8220;smaller&#8221; countries than he/she is not serious. Turkey weighting it&#8217;s interests between US and Russia, not Armenia or Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>I always wonder what would be political motivation for the country size of Turkey, and Russia for that matter, to enter into imperial project called  EU. Given animosity and hostility which they have toward Muslims, perhaps, they are better off with Russians. It appears they are far more reliable than EU.   </p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree that Turkey and Armenia is a win-win for those countries, less of one for Russia. I&#039;ve heard that it may also actually diminish Georgia&#039;s position, which has long been the &quot;stable&quot; force in the Caucasus vis-a-vis Turkey, Armenia, and Azerbaijan. Georgia will lose its prized status of the region&#039;s neutral country (I know, I know, this is funny).

Economically, it will be interesting to see how the Armenian markets respond to cheaper goods coming from Turkey. I know that in the Armenian parts of Georgia, profits from selling local produce have decline (if profits ever even existed) because of cheaper goods coming in from Armenia and Turkey. So this is a short-term wrinkle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree that Turkey and Armenia is a win-win for those countries, less of one for Russia. I&#8217;ve heard that it may also actually diminish Georgia&#8217;s position, which has long been the &#8220;stable&#8221; force in the Caucasus vis-a-vis Turkey, Armenia, and Azerbaijan. Georgia will lose its prized status of the region&#8217;s neutral country (I know, I know, this is funny).</p>
<p>Economically, it will be interesting to see how the Armenian markets respond to cheaper goods coming from Turkey. I know that in the Armenian parts of Georgia, profits from selling local produce have decline (if profits ever even existed) because of cheaper goods coming in from Armenia and Turkey. So this is a short-term wrinkle.</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
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		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A protocol had been in place for some time but negative reaction from Azerbaijan caused Erdogan to state in recent days that there would be no diplomatic relations prior to a resolution of the Nagorno Karabagh isssue. 

It seems likely that Obama threatened to use the &#039;G&#039; word in his April 24 statement to get some movement from the Turks. 

The devil is always in the details. A &#039;road map&#039; is far from a final agreement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A protocol had been in place for some time but negative reaction from Azerbaijan caused Erdogan to state in recent days that there would be no diplomatic relations prior to a resolution of the Nagorno Karabagh isssue. </p>
<p>It seems likely that Obama threatened to use the &#8216;G&#8217; word in his April 24 statement to get some movement from the Turks. </p>
<p>The devil is always in the details. A &#8216;road map&#8217; is far from a final agreement.</p>
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