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		<title>By: Charly</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/political-issues/french-protests-its-the-politics-stupid/#comment-14074</link>
		<dc:creator>Charly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for correcting my spelling mistakes.

It is not so much so that people who get kids when they are young are umemployable (though it doesn't help). But the kind of people who get kids when they are young are the type of people who are not exactly destine for succes. 



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for correcting my spelling mistakes.</p>
<p>It is not so much so that people who get kids when they are young are umemployable (though it doesn&#8217;t help). But the kind of people who get kids when they are young are the type of people who are not exactly destine for succes.</p>
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		<title>By: Joerg Wenck</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/political-issues/french-protests-its-the-politics-stupid/#comment-14073</link>
		<dc:creator>Joerg Wenck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That previous comment has been my most linguistically misinformed one so far. I guess I´ll have to relearn some of the simpler words of the English language...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That previous comment has been my most linguistically misinformed one so far. I guess I´ll have to relearn some of the simpler words of the English language&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joerg Wenck</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/political-issues/french-protests-its-the-politics-stupid/#comment-14072</link>
		<dc:creator>Joerg Wenck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope "that is maybe not the solution that you want to use to increase the number of babies" is a statement where the personal pronoun "you" doesn´t denote the singular but the plural. I´d go further and ask why Charly didn´t use "we" instead of "you".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope &#8220;that is maybe not the solution that you want to use to increase the number of babies&#8221; is a statement where the personal pronoun &#8220;you&#8221; doesn´t denote the singular but the plural. I´d go further and ask why Charly didn´t use &#8220;we&#8221; instead of &#8220;you&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Antoni Jaume</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/political-issues/french-protests-its-the-politics-stupid/#comment-14071</link>
		<dc:creator>Antoni Jaume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 22:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"There seems to be a high correlation between not having a CHANCE to regular work and having a lot of kids when you're young."

If you've a lots of kids, where a lots start at one, then you're out of luck to get a regular work.

At leat that's what I understand.

DSW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There seems to be a high correlation between not having a CHANCE to regular work and having a lot of kids when you&#8217;re young.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve a lots of kids, where a lots start at one, then you&#8217;re out of luck to get a regular work.</p>
<p>At leat that&#8217;s what I understand.</p>
<p>DSW</p>
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		<title>By: J. Wenck</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/political-issues/french-protests-its-the-politics-stupid/#comment-14070</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Wenck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"not having a change to regular work"
I don´t understand the phrase. Google thinks it´s a new coinage. If I´m factually wrong here (for the reason I think you are hinting at), then my position vis-á-vis the commenter I was responding to would still make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;not having a change to regular work&#8221;<br />
I don´t understand the phrase. Google thinks it´s a new coinage. If I´m factually wrong here (for the reason I think you are hinting at), then my position vis-á-vis the commenter I was responding to would still make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Charly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 01:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your wrong on there not being a connection between being young and unemployed and having children. There seems to be a high correlation between not having a change to regular work and having a lot of kids when your young. But that is maybe not the solution that you want to use to increase the number of babies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your wrong on there not being a connection between being young and unemployed and having children. There seems to be a high correlation between not having a change to regular work and having a lot of kids when your young. But that is maybe not the solution that you want to use to increase the number of babies.</p>
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		<title>By: Joerg Wenck</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/political-issues/french-protests-its-the-politics-stupid/#comment-14068</link>
		<dc:creator>Joerg Wenck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 23:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The young might still have more children if they have jobs, the old cannot."
That would suggest a connection between employment (among the young) and fertility - which, however, doesn´t really seem to exist.

A study by the Robert-Bosch-Foundation, however, has just given statistical support for Peer Steinbrueck´s (the German Finance Minister´s) proposal to channel the funds currently spent on transfer payments to families with children into financing adequate daycare facilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The young might still have more children if they have jobs, the old cannot.&#8221;<br />
That would suggest a connection between employment (among the young) and fertility - which, however, doesn´t really seem to exist.</p>
<p>A study by the Robert-Bosch-Foundation, however, has just given statistical support for Peer Steinbrueck´s (the German Finance Minister´s) proposal to channel the funds currently spent on transfer payments to families with children into financing adequate daycare facilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Emmanuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmanuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 16:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perlin : I think Robien is wrong to deem this a "non-respect du devoir de réserve". Looks more like a breach of the "obligation de neutralité" to me.

On the topic, see this, for instance :
http://www.guyane-education.org/contractuels/droits_et_devoirs.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perlin : I think Robien is wrong to deem this a &#8220;non-respect du devoir de réserve&#8221;. Looks more like a breach of the &#8220;obligation de neutralité&#8221; to me.</p>
<p>On the topic, see this, for instance :<br />
<a href="http://www.guyane-education.org/contractuels/droits_et_devoirs.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.guyane-education.org/contractuels/droits_et_devoirs.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Perlin le Fol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perlin le Fol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the debated "devoir de reserve", I recently noticed a few words from the French head of (state) education saying :

http://www.lefigaro.fr/france/20060331.FIG000000256_robien_je_demande_la_reouverture_des_lycees.html

"Nous avons effectivement identifié quelques cas d'enseignants ayant mis dans le carnet scolaire des enfants un message leur demandant d'aller manifester. C'est un déni d'esprit républicain. Ils sont en passe d'être sanctionnés pour non-respect du devoir de réserve des fonctionnaires. "</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the debated &#8220;devoir de reserve&#8221;, I recently noticed a few words from the French head of (state) education saying :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lefigaro.fr/france/20060331.FIG000000256_robien_je_demande_la_reouverture_des_lycees.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lefigaro.fr/france/20060331.FIG000000256_robien_je_demande_la_reouverture_des_lycees.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Nous avons effectivement identifié quelques cas d&#8217;enseignants ayant mis dans le carnet scolaire des enfants un message leur demandant d&#8217;aller manifester. C&#8217;est un déni d&#8217;esprit républicain. Ils sont en passe d&#8217;être sanctionnés pour non-respect du devoir de réserve des fonctionnaires. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perlin - I have already posted up links to much of the best going economics commentary and analysis on Europe's (or France's) chronic unemployment problem - from the OECD, Olivier Blanchard and Andre Sapir.

It is undeniable that France has had and does have a problem with persistent, chronic unemployment, especially with France's high unemployment among the under 25s, compared with many other EU countries. If the problem is not attributable to institutional factors in France's labour and product markets, whether statutory or otherwise - such as an unusually high statutory minimum wage (SMIC) or trade union protection of jobs for those who already have jobs at the expense of those who have no jobs - then we need to look for an alternative diagnosis and remedies.

As part of the Eurozone, France no longer has national autonomy over monetary policy - the European Central Bank now sets interest rates to curb the average inflation rate across the whole Eurozone. Running fiscal deficits in excess of the maximum permitted by the Eurozone's Stability and Growth Pact of 1997 certainly suggests that French governments have believed that demand deficiency is at least part of the problem. However, France's posted inflation rate is currently 1.9%, close to the target of a maximum rate of 2% adopted by the ECB, which suggests there is little scope for fiscal measures to boost demand, regardless of further breaches of the Stability and Growth Pact, without the risk of also boosting inflation. 

Many comments have been made recently about Chirac's emerging policy to insulate national champion companies from cross-border merger and acquisition bids:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,16849-2065647,00.html

However, when yoghourt making comes to be regarded as a national strategic industry that must be protected against subversion by companies based in other EU countries, alien observers are inclined to be sceptical. We have been there before. Remember that delicious satire of 1846 by Frederic Bastiat: The petition to the National Assembly by the candlemakers?
http://silentpc.org/university/Candlemaker.pdf

If Maxine Aubry has sold out to the forces of reaction there does not seem to be much room for any hope although Edouard Balladur, a loyal Gaullist, did say in an interview with the Financial Times: "What is the market? It is the law of the jungle. And what is civilisation? It is the struggle against nature." 
http://yoz.com/wired/1.01/features/culture_war.html

Perhaps the late Georges Marchais had the definitive answer after all - he was Secretary General of France's Communist Party. Pressed for comments on the crumbling Soviet empire c.1990, he replied: "I tell you, they didn't arrest enough. They didn't imprison enough. If they had been tougher and more vigilant, they wouldn't have got into the situation they are in now." [Jonathan Fenby: France on the Brink (1999)]

But as Britain has the current record for having more in prison per head of population than any other European country except Portugal, I do not think Tony Blair's government wishes to see a challenge to this national achievement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perlin - I have already posted up links to much of the best going economics commentary and analysis on Europe&#8217;s (or France&#8217;s) chronic unemployment problem - from the OECD, Olivier Blanchard and Andre Sapir.</p>
<p>It is undeniable that France has had and does have a problem with persistent, chronic unemployment, especially with France&#8217;s high unemployment among the under 25s, compared with many other EU countries. If the problem is not attributable to institutional factors in France&#8217;s labour and product markets, whether statutory or otherwise - such as an unusually high statutory minimum wage (SMIC) or trade union protection of jobs for those who already have jobs at the expense of those who have no jobs - then we need to look for an alternative diagnosis and remedies.</p>
<p>As part of the Eurozone, France no longer has national autonomy over monetary policy - the European Central Bank now sets interest rates to curb the average inflation rate across the whole Eurozone. Running fiscal deficits in excess of the maximum permitted by the Eurozone&#8217;s Stability and Growth Pact of 1997 certainly suggests that French governments have believed that demand deficiency is at least part of the problem. However, France&#8217;s posted inflation rate is currently 1.9%, close to the target of a maximum rate of 2% adopted by the ECB, which suggests there is little scope for fiscal measures to boost demand, regardless of further breaches of the Stability and Growth Pact, without the risk of also boosting inflation. </p>
<p>Many comments have been made recently about Chirac&#8217;s emerging policy to insulate national champion companies from cross-border merger and acquisition bids:<br />
<a href="http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,16849-2065647,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,16849-2065647,00.html</a></p>
<p>However, when yoghourt making comes to be regarded as a national strategic industry that must be protected against subversion by companies based in other EU countries, alien observers are inclined to be sceptical. We have been there before. Remember that delicious satire of 1846 by Frederic Bastiat: The petition to the National Assembly by the candlemakers?<br />
<a href="http://silentpc.org/university/Candlemaker.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://silentpc.org/university/Candlemaker.pdf</a></p>
<p>If Maxine Aubry has sold out to the forces of reaction there does not seem to be much room for any hope although Edouard Balladur, a loyal Gaullist, did say in an interview with the Financial Times: &#8220;What is the market? It is the law of the jungle. And what is civilisation? It is the struggle against nature.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://yoz.com/wired/1.01/features/culture_war.html" rel="nofollow">http://yoz.com/wired/1.01/features/culture_war.html</a></p>
<p>Perhaps the late Georges Marchais had the definitive answer after all - he was Secretary General of France&#8217;s Communist Party. Pressed for comments on the crumbling Soviet empire c.1990, he replied: &#8220;I tell you, they didn&#8217;t arrest enough. They didn&#8217;t imprison enough. If they had been tougher and more vigilant, they wouldn&#8217;t have got into the situation they are in now.&#8221; [Jonathan Fenby: France on the Brink (1999)]</p>
<p>But as Britain has the current record for having more in prison per head of population than any other European country except Portugal, I do not think Tony Blair&#8217;s government wishes to see a challenge to this national achievement.</p>
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