Comments on: Dutch (in)tolerance

By: Glen Miller

Glen Miller — Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:44:31 +0000

It is interesting to hear about these things I predicted this situation would happen. In 1989 I predicted a European Revolution. I am Jamaican born American who has traveled and worked the world over and also worked for the Department of Defense. I have lived and worked here from 1992 and still a subject of discrimination despite my Western background and the speaking and writing the Dutch language. It is sad because I volunteerd to come here to serve the Dutch military and citizens with my life if necessary and as a US Air Force veteran I am disappointed with the manner of treatment that I have received from different employers over the years. I am preparing to go back to my America with a sense of achievement and pride dispite all the negative experiences. I hope to continue to be a world citizen and continue to make the world a better place with the help of you all.

Glen Miller

By: Hans Luddigger

Hans Luddigger — Fri, 07 Apr 2006 18:25:42 +0000

Well Frank, I gotta ask ya, isn’t there something else you can be obsessed about? This kind of thing makes you, and by extension the Balkie government, look pretty well… no wait I won’t say the word. Here’s a story instead.

Ever heard the one about the man who takes himself hostage inside his home and then calls the police saying that he’s not going to release himself until his demands are met? (Hint, the rest of the world continues on, not paying any attention.)

Europe is expanding and evolving, and NL is fast losing its power and influence….

By: Guy

Guy — Fri, 07 Apr 2006 02:06:11 +0000

Wow, guys, take it easy. As long as the discussion is honest and does not cross hate speech and troll barriers nobody gets censored.

By: Huib, Brussels

Huib, Brussels — Fri, 07 Apr 2006 02:01:34 +0000

And, I forgot, if you are interested in some factual background of the Dutch anti-islamic hysteria, read my blogpost: “The Cross and the Mosque” (http://huibriethof.blogspot.com/2006/03/dutch-anti-islamic-hysteria-cross-and.html)
at my blog “At Home in Europe”. Thxs.

By: Huib, Brussels

Huib, Brussels — Fri, 07 Apr 2006 01:50:51 +0000

Here, I must abandon any effort at explanation: I do not understand anything of what he might mean. But, please, do NOT censor this nut – he might think he were another victim of the “multiculti maffia”. In your weblog-list, you could move him to the category “Way to our right”. My daughters are fine, thank you.

By: Frans Groenendijk

Frans Groenendijk — Fri, 07 Apr 2006 00:08:27 +0000

When mr Riethof wrote a post in which he tried to counter-attack me on my critics towards mrs Meulenbelt he made an indirect reference to this relationship himself. If he had not done this I would not have made this reference.
If he makes a reference on his own blog to his daugthers I do not think it is inappropriate to ask him what his daughters think about the fact that their father tells the Dutch they should get used to being called a whore for not wearing a veil.
But maybe this attitude of me elicits new covert requests for censorship from mr Riethof.
For some years now I have visited this blog (last year not very much) and followed numerous debates. Some of them were really heated.
If I recall correctly Riethof still is the first visitor inviting censorship however. The fact that he disguises his invitation in my book only makes things worse.

By: Huib, Brussels

Huib, Brussels — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:01:57 +0000

I do not understand, why my love life of 35 years ago still matters to Mr. Groenendijk. I think, he is really seeking to become a victim of censorship here. But I would advise to let him ramble on. His paranoia deserves treatment, however. What about a Sufi course?

By: Frans Groenendijk

Frans Groenendijk — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:28:32 +0000

“Two days ago, representatives of all democratic parties (including government parties) signed a declaration, condemning the harsh attitude of the Balkenende government to immigrants and refugees.”
The list included “interesting” people.
Mohammed Rabae of GroenLinks. A man who supported Khomeini’s fatwa on Rushdie by arguing that the “Satanic Verses” should be censored. When he was interviewed by Theo van Gogh on the subject it turned out that he had not even read the book. We all now what happened to van Gogh afterwards… Rabae also told us that we have to tolerate muslim intolerance towards homosexuality.
Then there is mr van Kemenade of the social democrats. A man who got the assignment to found out what went wrong on the Dutch ministry of defence when films disappeared that were very damaging on the role of the Dutch army in Srebrenica. Instead of seriously investigating this he came up with a political “solution”: taking away all the blame for the Dutch politicians. Covering up for the Dutch co-responsibility for the massacre of thousands of muslim-men.
And there we have the former girlfriend of mr Riethof, Anja Meulenbelt, now senator for the socialists. On her own weblog she indirectly supports death-threats of the islamofascists against radical liberal muslims and describes muslims criticizing aspects of the islamic ideology strongly of not being “real” muslims.
A fine group indeed.

About the situation in the Amsterdam neighbourhood, where people like these political fossils decided to do away with a war memorial because muslims did not like the cross-shape of it near a new mosque that is being built , you can read something here.
According to mr Riethof it was a hoax because massive protests from all parts of the country (including the catholic archbishop) made the city council change its stupid mind on the issue.

By: Charly

Charly — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:14:07 +0000

The only local party that had a strong anti immigrant image was leefbaar Rotterdam. The others were more anti parties without any real political ideas

By: Huib, Brussels

Huib, Brussels — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 02:33:18 +0000

Yes, there is a racist and intolerant wave in Holland. And it is certainly not good for its commerce, nor for the building of an European commonwealth. It is amazing, that an utter nut like Mr. Wilders, is being taken seriously. The famous Dutch “tolerance” has never been more than an empty shell. A shell that covers selfishness and group exclusivity.
In my opinion, it is the “intrusion” of globalisation and of Europe into the parishes of Dutch grou egocentrism, that has provoked this sharp reaction to other cultures, in particular “the” Islam.
Fortunately, as of late, there are some positive developments: Two days ago, representatives of all democratic parties (including government parties) signed a declaration, condemning the harsh attitude of the Balkenende government to immigrants and refugees. The local elections of March 9 resulted in an astounding progress of the social-democrat party, and heavy losses of the governmental majority parties, as well as a virtual cleaning swipe of the Fortuynist local parties, with the exception of the city of Rotterdam. Mr. Groenendijk, a would-be local politician in the city of Utrecht, who has been commenting here on this post, was not only thrown out from the election list of his local party because of his anti-islamic positions, but his list carried zero seats in the local council. The “cross” incident he mentions as having happened in Amsterdam, was a complete hoax, as I demonstrated some three weeks ago in a comment on his website and on my own blog “At Home in Europe” ( huibriethof.blogspot.com ). I consider the Groenendijks as a late echo of the Fortuyn hype, and I pray and hope, that a confrontation on an European level, as happens here, will help my fellow-Dutchmen to return to their senses.