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	<title>Comments on: Kosovo, this and that</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: finish</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/minorities-and-integration/kosovo-this-and-that/#comment-22229</link>
		<dc:creator>finish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Il auras toujours des revendications AVEC OU SANS kosova.Qui a créé la boîte de Pandore est le coupable c'est a dire qui a créé la Yoguslavie et pas l'autodetermination du peuple albanais.
-pour celui qui a dit Kosova ne merite pas l'independence car elle ne la pas gagner tout seul:est-ce que L'Europe c'est souver tout seul de l'Allmagne naziste?
Kosova est un Etat albanais car elle a était injustement séparéée de L'Albanie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Il auras toujours des revendications AVEC OU SANS kosova.Qui a créé la boîte de Pandore est le coupable c&#8217;est a dire qui a créé la Yoguslavie et pas l&#8217;autodetermination du peuple albanais.<br />
-pour celui qui a dit Kosova ne merite pas l&#8217;independence car elle ne la pas gagner tout seul:est-ce que L&#8217;Europe c&#8217;est souver tout seul de l&#8217;Allmagne naziste?<br />
Kosova est un Etat albanais car elle a était injustement séparéée de L&#8217;Albanie.</p>
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		<title>By: not important</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/minorities-and-integration/kosovo-this-and-that/#comment-20678</link>
		<dc:creator>not important</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 21:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that you all have your theories, ideas and arguments over the Kosovo issue. But I think it got really of the wagon and senselessly complicated. The matter is much much simpler than what you all are talking about, gets reported in the media, or gets argued upon. The only reason why Kosovo got its independence and is being supported by a lot of democratic and civilized states is that Serbia is not a stable country in its own and is very vulnerable to war. Some very obvious facts are the wars that they initiated in the 90s. Now for all of you who do not know, WARS ARE NOT PLEASANT. Indeed they are very fckued up. They are especially fckued up when you have Serbs in them as your enemy and they are outnumbered, outgunned and hungry for blood. Having all this siht in mind, some Diplomats got together and asked a question: Do we want to live in a world where every morning we wake up with the fear that we will hear on the news that Serbia started a new war, people were massacred, and 2 million people continue living like zombies (with no perspective) in the 21 Century? The answer for any decent human being should be intuitive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that you all have your theories, ideas and arguments over the Kosovo issue. But I think it got really of the wagon and senselessly complicated. The matter is much much simpler than what you all are talking about, gets reported in the media, or gets argued upon. The only reason why Kosovo got its independence and is being supported by a lot of democratic and civilized states is that Serbia is not a stable country in its own and is very vulnerable to war. Some very obvious facts are the wars that they initiated in the 90s. Now for all of you who do not know, WARS ARE NOT PLEASANT. Indeed they are very fckued up. They are especially fckued up when you have Serbs in them as your enemy and they are outnumbered, outgunned and hungry for blood. Having all this siht in mind, some Diplomats got together and asked a question: Do we want to live in a world where every morning we wake up with the fear that we will hear on the news that Serbia started a new war, people were massacred, and 2 million people continue living like zombies (with no perspective) in the 21 Century? The answer for any decent human being should be intuitive!</p>
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		<title>By: szopen</title>
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		<dc:creator>szopen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Randy, Hi Doug

Pretty much everything was said on the issue. Albanians got their country despite continous killing Serbs. Serbs were punished for doing exactly the same what Turks are doing to Kurds, Russians to Chechens or Americans to Talibans in Afghanistan. America did it's best to push Serbia into Russia's hand. As for UE, Kostunica and many other politicians already said that they are not interested in EU membership - so whatever EU said later, is pretty much irrevelant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Randy, Hi Doug</p>
<p>Pretty much everything was said on the issue. Albanians got their country despite continous killing Serbs. Serbs were punished for doing exactly the same what Turks are doing to Kurds, Russians to Chechens or Americans to Talibans in Afghanistan. America did it&#8217;s best to push Serbia into Russia&#8217;s hand. As for UE, Kostunica and many other politicians already said that they are not interested in EU membership - so whatever EU said later, is pretty much irrevelant.</p>
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		<title>By: Wim Roffel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wim Roffel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug wrote: "The Serbs are refusing to resolve the fraught issue of ownership of former state property."

Might it be that they are a little angry about how the Albanians are treating Serb corporate properties (that they are "privatising" without giving the Serb owners a dime) and Serb private properties (that has been usurped on massive scale after the war and for which many Serbs are now involved forever in Kosovo's ineffective courtsystem)? Not to mention the continuing efforts to privatise Brezovica: a ski resort in a Serb majority area that seems destined to be given for a small sum to some Albanian in yet another corrupt privitisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug wrote: &#8220;The Serbs are refusing to resolve the fraught issue of ownership of former state property.&#8221;</p>
<p>Might it be that they are a little angry about how the Albanians are treating Serb corporate properties (that they are &#8220;privatising&#8221; without giving the Serb owners a dime) and Serb private properties (that has been usurped on massive scale after the war and for which many Serbs are now involved forever in Kosovo&#8217;s ineffective courtsystem)? Not to mention the continuing efforts to privatise Brezovica: a ski resort in a Serb majority area that seems destined to be given for a small sum to some Albanian in yet another corrupt privitisation.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy McDonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"You have opened the proverbial Pandora box to every other ethnic group wanting and demanding the same thing. This is just simply not possible."

In 1989-1992, three different federations (USSR, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia) home to nearly three hundred million people in the heart of Europe came apart. This did not inspire a world trend of secessionism: Catalunya, Québec, and Scotland have all remained Spanish, Canadian, and British last time I checked. Will Kosovar independence have any greater impact than, say, Croatian or Ukrainian independence?

As far as recognition is concerned, compared to (say) Bangladesh in the early 1970s Kosovo isn't doing too shabbily. It took three years for Bangladesh to get recognition from the People's Republic and accede to the United Nations. That may take longer, but is recognition by the remaining states of the EU really that far away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You have opened the proverbial Pandora box to every other ethnic group wanting and demanding the same thing. This is just simply not possible.&#8221;</p>
<p>In 1989-1992, three different federations (USSR, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia) home to nearly three hundred million people in the heart of Europe came apart. This did not inspire a world trend of secessionism: Catalunya, Québec, and Scotland have all remained Spanish, Canadian, and British last time I checked. Will Kosovar independence have any greater impact than, say, Croatian or Ukrainian independence?</p>
<p>As far as recognition is concerned, compared to (say) Bangladesh in the early 1970s Kosovo isn&#8217;t doing too shabbily. It took three years for Bangladesh to get recognition from the People&#8217;s Republic and accede to the United Nations. That may take longer, but is recognition by the remaining states of the EU really that far away?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, the whole Kosovo recognition thing has opened the door to any and all countries or people asking for and demanding the same recognition and this is a dangerous precedent! Taiwan wants to be left alone from China, The Basques in Spain want to be separate as well as recognized. Tibet wants to be left alone from China. Palestine want a separate homeland from Israel and the list goes on... where should it stop if at all? These are questions which need to be and should have been answered by the world at large before Kosovo was recognized. This is nothing more than a re-alignment of the world based on either break away nations gaining support of the EU or NATO nations all in the name of creating subordinate so called democratic nations who are desire recognition or in some way can create a new economic territory which can be exploited thru trade or economic means. I have often said, „Western Democratic nations require new frontier (trading partners for import and export) which can be used and exploited in order to prop up such nation’s economies until the proverbial well runs dry. Larger nations require lots of money to maintain their economies and when they can no longer support themselves from within, they naturally look elsewhere to expand thus they need new trading partners which allow the larger countries to use up the newer ones resources until they eventually run out. This has happened throughout history and the world but just about every large nation. There are just simply not enough resources to go around and the rate at which they are being used up is faster than they are or can be replaced. I call this the need for new frontiers- In the US, we called it Manifest Destiny and now it’s called democratization under the guise of so called Peace. Kosovo Albanians want peace and their own nation--they now have recognition, but at what cost? And who decides which nation or ethnic group is allowed or will be recognized and which ones will not? Shouldn't world peace be agreed upon by the entire world? I doubt this will happen without divine intervention and so in the meantime the stronger dictate the game rules and decide who and who will not be allowed to play.. Hypocrisy at its best! No wonder someone once said, the world is going to hell in a hand basket. The question is whose hand basket? My hats off to former Czechoslovakia-- they split peaceably into two lands. Perhaps this should have been used as a model for Kosovo instead of the way in which it was accomplished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, the whole Kosovo recognition thing has opened the door to any and all countries or people asking for and demanding the same recognition and this is a dangerous precedent! Taiwan wants to be left alone from China, The Basques in Spain want to be separate as well as recognized. Tibet wants to be left alone from China. Palestine want a separate homeland from Israel and the list goes on&#8230; where should it stop if at all? These are questions which need to be and should have been answered by the world at large before Kosovo was recognized. This is nothing more than a re-alignment of the world based on either break away nations gaining support of the EU or NATO nations all in the name of creating subordinate so called democratic nations who are desire recognition or in some way can create a new economic territory which can be exploited thru trade or economic means. I have often said, „Western Democratic nations require new frontier (trading partners for import and export) which can be used and exploited in order to prop up such nation’s economies until the proverbial well runs dry. Larger nations require lots of money to maintain their economies and when they can no longer support themselves from within, they naturally look elsewhere to expand thus they need new trading partners which allow the larger countries to use up the newer ones resources until they eventually run out. This has happened throughout history and the world but just about every large nation. There are just simply not enough resources to go around and the rate at which they are being used up is faster than they are or can be replaced. I call this the need for new frontiers- In the US, we called it Manifest Destiny and now it’s called democratization under the guise of so called Peace. Kosovo Albanians want peace and their own nation&#8211;they now have recognition, but at what cost? And who decides which nation or ethnic group is allowed or will be recognized and which ones will not? Shouldn&#8217;t world peace be agreed upon by the entire world? I doubt this will happen without divine intervention and so in the meantime the stronger dictate the game rules and decide who and who will not be allowed to play.. Hypocrisy at its best! No wonder someone once said, the world is going to hell in a hand basket. The question is whose hand basket? My hats off to former Czechoslovakia&#8211; they split peaceably into two lands. Perhaps this should have been used as a model for Kosovo instead of the way in which it was accomplished.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to clarify some points which I was trying to make earlier. First, most historians would say that the winning side often writes the history of a war or situation with a slanted view based on the winning side and not the loser. This philosophical view can be attributed to many situations i.e. if you are a Serb or Russian you might tend to see Kosovo’s recent Independence as a slap in the face! One might view it as an illegal intervention on the side of those countries that have supported this move. But, if you are Russia (Putin) you might try to play both sides against the middle i.e. during the initial stages of the Crisis in Kosovo when the U.S. was bombing Belgrade the Soviet government spoke out firmly against such action in the UN and also in Serbia itself. However, most of the world new that the Soviet Union was doing similar things in Chechnya (forgive the spelling). One might say, that the Soviets had to save face with the Serbs in light of knowing that they could not affect the outcome but rather their "bark" in the world must never-the-less be heard and at all cost it must not be interpreted by the Serbians as though they were being hung out to dry by Russia. In fact all of this has happened in one former or another. The question is WHY? I believe as I have already stated, that Russia (now Putin) cannot afford to be politically or economically tied down with the situation in Kosovo per se, but rather he can hope to achieve a Political win for himself and Russia (especially in the Serbs eyes) by seeming to speak out against the new Independence thus saving face with the Serbs, which at the same time demanding that Russia play a role in any Security Council decision or UN decision regarding Kosovo’s new Independence. Today, many would say its Russia's way of securing that the world at least somewhat believes that they are and remain a world power as they were viewed prior to the Cold War. The simple fact is they lost the Cold War and could not keep up with Western economies because they were busy investing vast sums of their state monies in the military. I saw first hand what shape the Russian military was in after the Cold War-- Rusty components no money for fuel or replacement parts etc. They just could not keep up financially with the West! Today Putin uses the threat of the former Soviet Union (mostly the threat of their Nuclear arsenal) to assure Russia's place in the G8 summit and in the World Political arena. Financially, The Soviet Union was finished after the Cold War and only now through western assistance and investment through such countries as Germany is they able to rebuild their country financially. Russia cannot afford a drain on their financial reserves and that is exactly what they had with all of their former Pre-Cold War Warsaw Pact satellite nations who required their earlier support which brings me to my main point. Russia is a big Nuclear Dog who wants everyone to hear its Bark, with nothing to back its bark up apart from the potential threat of nuclear proliferation. Does this mean, I dislike Russia-no way, but one must understand that Putin is milking this Kosovo Independence thing for all its worth. His Rhetoric is causing many countries to challenge the EU and Western countries who have decided to support Kosovo’s Independence. Does he really care about this? I doubt it, but he only sees what he can gain from such dissension-- Angry Serbs who like the fact that Russia appears to be supportive of their feelings (believe me nothing will come from this Serbia) because Putin doesn't really care about you he cannot afford to get mixed up with your squabble, rather he must maintain the appearance as if he cares! Kosovo-- you may have gained recognition to Independence (something many ethnic groups would like to have) but at what expense? You have opened the proverbial Pandora box to every other ethnic group wanting and demanding the same thing. This is just simply not possible. Dumb mistake Germany, England and US. Dumb politically and economically. If Independence is desired then it must be won all by yourself, otherwise it will not last nor be respected. Kosovo’s new Independence will only bring new problems in the entire world. I wish Kosovo all the best but even in the Unites States we had to fight our own battle of Independence and lost many of our own people as a result. No one fought our battle for us or gave us our Independence. If it’s worth having its worth fighting for yourself versus being granted through a Political decision! Finally, Putin you old fox-- your methods are clearly visible and although you play a good Political game you will eventually lose! Stand taller Putin and take care of your Nation better versus filling your own pockets with state money from GAZPROM and other ventures which belongs to your fellow countrymen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to clarify some points which I was trying to make earlier. First, most historians would say that the winning side often writes the history of a war or situation with a slanted view based on the winning side and not the loser. This philosophical view can be attributed to many situations i.e. if you are a Serb or Russian you might tend to see Kosovo’s recent Independence as a slap in the face! One might view it as an illegal intervention on the side of those countries that have supported this move. But, if you are Russia (Putin) you might try to play both sides against the middle i.e. during the initial stages of the Crisis in Kosovo when the U.S. was bombing Belgrade the Soviet government spoke out firmly against such action in the UN and also in Serbia itself. However, most of the world new that the Soviet Union was doing similar things in Chechnya (forgive the spelling). One might say, that the Soviets had to save face with the Serbs in light of knowing that they could not affect the outcome but rather their &#8220;bark&#8221; in the world must never-the-less be heard and at all cost it must not be interpreted by the Serbians as though they were being hung out to dry by Russia. In fact all of this has happened in one former or another. The question is WHY? I believe as I have already stated, that Russia (now Putin) cannot afford to be politically or economically tied down with the situation in Kosovo per se, but rather he can hope to achieve a Political win for himself and Russia (especially in the Serbs eyes) by seeming to speak out against the new Independence thus saving face with the Serbs, which at the same time demanding that Russia play a role in any Security Council decision or UN decision regarding Kosovo’s new Independence. Today, many would say its Russia&#8217;s way of securing that the world at least somewhat believes that they are and remain a world power as they were viewed prior to the Cold War. The simple fact is they lost the Cold War and could not keep up with Western economies because they were busy investing vast sums of their state monies in the military. I saw first hand what shape the Russian military was in after the Cold War&#8211; Rusty components no money for fuel or replacement parts etc. They just could not keep up financially with the West! Today Putin uses the threat of the former Soviet Union (mostly the threat of their Nuclear arsenal) to assure Russia&#8217;s place in the G8 summit and in the World Political arena. Financially, The Soviet Union was finished after the Cold War and only now through western assistance and investment through such countries as Germany is they able to rebuild their country financially. Russia cannot afford a drain on their financial reserves and that is exactly what they had with all of their former Pre-Cold War Warsaw Pact satellite nations who required their earlier support which brings me to my main point. Russia is a big Nuclear Dog who wants everyone to hear its Bark, with nothing to back its bark up apart from the potential threat of nuclear proliferation. Does this mean, I dislike Russia-no way, but one must understand that Putin is milking this Kosovo Independence thing for all its worth. His Rhetoric is causing many countries to challenge the EU and Western countries who have decided to support Kosovo’s Independence. Does he really care about this? I doubt it, but he only sees what he can gain from such dissension&#8211; Angry Serbs who like the fact that Russia appears to be supportive of their feelings (believe me nothing will come from this Serbia) because Putin doesn&#8217;t really care about you he cannot afford to get mixed up with your squabble, rather he must maintain the appearance as if he cares! Kosovo&#8211; you may have gained recognition to Independence (something many ethnic groups would like to have) but at what expense? You have opened the proverbial Pandora box to every other ethnic group wanting and demanding the same thing. This is just simply not possible. Dumb mistake Germany, England and US. Dumb politically and economically. If Independence is desired then it must be won all by yourself, otherwise it will not last nor be respected. Kosovo’s new Independence will only bring new problems in the entire world. I wish Kosovo all the best but even in the Unites States we had to fight our own battle of Independence and lost many of our own people as a result. No one fought our battle for us or gave us our Independence. If it’s worth having its worth fighting for yourself versus being granted through a Political decision! Finally, Putin you old fox&#8211; your methods are clearly visible and although you play a good Political game you will eventually lose! Stand taller Putin and take care of your Nation better versus filling your own pockets with state money from GAZPROM and other ventures which belongs to your fellow countrymen!</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oscar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Doug,

I agree that Kostunica seems to be falling back into some classical communist style rethorics. 

You are right, the Kosovo Albanians didn't get exactly everything they wanted, but they did get the vast majority of them, despite breaking international law. The Kosovar Albanians now have their own state, supported by the US and the EU despite not fulfilling the conditions the UN had initially set up, including providing sufficient safety for minorities. Also, just as in the case of Croatia, Kosovar Albanian authorities seem to be gettin away with having ethnically cleansed half of their local Serbian population and not doing much to promote their return.

The things you mention that the Kosovar Albanians have not gotten are the result of the unilateral attitude taken by them and their US and Nato allies in the independence negotiations.  

Also, I doubt that it's due to Serbia that Kosovo is not an EU candidate or on route to becoming one. The main problems in Kosovo, no matter what many Kosovar Albanians say, not related to Kosovo's status, the UN or Serbia, but are indigenous - organized crime, general lawlessness, corruption, a poorly developed domestic economy and dependence on external aid/remittances and weak state institutions.

Finally, it's not Serbia or Russia who are generating conflict or starting a "bush fire" by opposing indepenence for Kosovo, it is the US and its Nato allies which are causing an increase in tensions by accepting Kosovo's unilateral move towards independence.

The Belgrade embassy fire is unfortunate, but I have yet to see any evidence that it was planned or directly instigated by the Serbian government. On the other hand, I seem to remember the US government bombing a certain embassy in Belgrade (together with other official buildings) with quite high precision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Doug,</p>
<p>I agree that Kostunica seems to be falling back into some classical communist style rethorics. </p>
<p>You are right, the Kosovo Albanians didn&#8217;t get exactly everything they wanted, but they did get the vast majority of them, despite breaking international law. The Kosovar Albanians now have their own state, supported by the US and the EU despite not fulfilling the conditions the UN had initially set up, including providing sufficient safety for minorities. Also, just as in the case of Croatia, Kosovar Albanian authorities seem to be gettin away with having ethnically cleansed half of their local Serbian population and not doing much to promote their return.</p>
<p>The things you mention that the Kosovar Albanians have not gotten are the result of the unilateral attitude taken by them and their US and Nato allies in the independence negotiations.  </p>
<p>Also, I doubt that it&#8217;s due to Serbia that Kosovo is not an EU candidate or on route to becoming one. The main problems in Kosovo, no matter what many Kosovar Albanians say, not related to Kosovo&#8217;s status, the UN or Serbia, but are indigenous - organized crime, general lawlessness, corruption, a poorly developed domestic economy and dependence on external aid/remittances and weak state institutions.</p>
<p>Finally, it&#8217;s not Serbia or Russia who are generating conflict or starting a &#8220;bush fire&#8221; by opposing indepenence for Kosovo, it is the US and its Nato allies which are causing an increase in tensions by accepting Kosovo&#8217;s unilateral move towards independence.</p>
<p>The Belgrade embassy fire is unfortunate, but I have yet to see any evidence that it was planned or directly instigated by the Serbian government. On the other hand, I seem to remember the US government bombing a certain embassy in Belgrade (together with other official buildings) with quite high precision.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Muir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Muir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see I have to gently re-iterate the commenting rules again.

No obscene languages; don't insult other commenters or their countries.  Long angry rants are not favored, nor are lengthy cut-and-pastes from other sites or media.  Play nice.

I've deleted comments before, and will again if necessary.  Word to the wise.


Doug M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see I have to gently re-iterate the commenting rules again.</p>
<p>No obscene languages; don&#8217;t insult other commenters or their countries.  Long angry rants are not favored, nor are lengthy cut-and-pastes from other sites or media.  Play nice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve deleted comments before, and will again if necessary.  Word to the wise.</p>
<p>Doug M.</p>
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		<title>By: Avanger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 05:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment to FreeandBrave:

It is very typical for Americans to attack Serbs. Wasn't it America who had a civil war to supress seperatists?Hmmmm

Prime minister Thaci is a terrorist, who lead the KLA group whith genocide histories in Croatia before Kosovo.

Isn't America fighting a War on terror? America is supporting terror!

How many foreign nations have American troops stationed in them? Iraq, Afghanistan, &#38; now illegaly proclaimed "Kosova".
How many nations have their soldiers in America from saving the american people from a more corrupt government then they claim others to be.

Hey Americans" Should Los Angeles be ceded to Mexico because their is many latinos living their? 
So why should Kosovo be ceded to people who populated like rabbits(Wouldn't you like to know that the average ethnic albanian family in kosovo has an average of 6 children. Kosovo has an unemployment rate of 50%, why have 6 children when you can't feed one? The intent is clear, to "ETHNICALLY CLEANSE SERBS!). 

Wouldn't you Americans like to know that 9/11 was supported by your own government. It is the CIA who trained Osama Bin Laden and supported him with monetary aid and weapons.What did he do in the years to come, he attacked America.For that 1 day American citizens finally felt what citizens were suffering when they bombed Hiroshima,When they were raping women in Vietnam and doing acid,When they bombed Hospital,Schools and the Chinese Embassy in Serbia(All civilian targets). 

Wait a minute, isn't America crying about their precious embassy being burned down in Belgrade? 

10 years ago Chinese &#38; Serbs were protesting when Americans and Nato bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade. NATO and the Americans claimed the bombings as "accidental, they meant to hit a military target". If the world believes Serbia, Russia &#38; China are corrupt, then what is to make of the United States of America who has had more wars on foreign soil then on their own. It is easy for them to destroy other countries and watch them suffer economically. Yet the United States is arguably the most powerful nation economically, yet how many wars have been fought on their soil. That have lead to the destruction of their hospitals, schools and other civilian targets. America was attacked in Peal Harbor(A MILITARY TARGET), yet they used this to justify them nuking A CIVILIAN TARGET! Point Zero in the middle of Hiroshima. America was again attacked in 9/11, I do have remorse for innocents that died. America again used this to bomb and invade Afghanistan. Osama Bin Laden has lived in more then one Arabic country, they bombed Afghanistan because they thought he was there. Have they found him? So all those troops who continue to die for America as I speak today? What do they fight for. Peace &#38; Democracy? While the american government breaks and re-makes international laws to better suit their wishes. I am a serb and I am proud. I am proud when pro-western people stereotype me as Nationalist,Radical &#38; Evil. I am proud because they have bad guys like me to point at, but when 9/11 happens again. I know americans will realize all along they've been helping the wrong people. Today Albanians praise the American flag, tommorow they will be burning it. Thaci and the KLA was funded by the Al Queda in the beginning to secede from Serbia and form an Islamic State. Today America is allies with Thaci &#38; KLA, at the same time claiming to fight a war on terror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment to FreeandBrave:</p>
<p>It is very typical for Americans to attack Serbs. Wasn&#8217;t it America who had a civil war to supress seperatists?Hmmmm</p>
<p>Prime minister Thaci is a terrorist, who lead the KLA group whith genocide histories in Croatia before Kosovo.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t America fighting a War on terror? America is supporting terror!</p>
<p>How many foreign nations have American troops stationed in them? Iraq, Afghanistan, &amp; now illegaly proclaimed &#8220;Kosova&#8221;.<br />
How many nations have their soldiers in America from saving the american people from a more corrupt government then they claim others to be.</p>
<p>Hey Americans&#8221; Should Los Angeles be ceded to Mexico because their is many latinos living their?<br />
So why should Kosovo be ceded to people who populated like rabbits(Wouldn&#8217;t you like to know that the average ethnic albanian family in kosovo has an average of 6 children. Kosovo has an unemployment rate of 50%, why have 6 children when you can&#8217;t feed one? The intent is clear, to &#8220;ETHNICALLY CLEANSE SERBS!). </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t you Americans like to know that 9/11 was supported by your own government. It is the CIA who trained Osama Bin Laden and supported him with monetary aid and weapons.What did he do in the years to come, he attacked America.For that 1 day American citizens finally felt what citizens were suffering when they bombed Hiroshima,When they were raping women in Vietnam and doing acid,When they bombed Hospital,Schools and the Chinese Embassy in Serbia(All civilian targets). </p>
<p>Wait a minute, isn&#8217;t America crying about their precious embassy being burned down in Belgrade? </p>
<p>10 years ago Chinese &amp; Serbs were protesting when Americans and Nato bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade. NATO and the Americans claimed the bombings as &#8220;accidental, they meant to hit a military target&#8221;. If the world believes Serbia, Russia &amp; China are corrupt, then what is to make of the United States of America who has had more wars on foreign soil then on their own. It is easy for them to destroy other countries and watch them suffer economically. Yet the United States is arguably the most powerful nation economically, yet how many wars have been fought on their soil. That have lead to the destruction of their hospitals, schools and other civilian targets. America was attacked in Peal Harbor(A MILITARY TARGET), yet they used this to justify them nuking A CIVILIAN TARGET! Point Zero in the middle of Hiroshima. America was again attacked in 9/11, I do have remorse for innocents that died. America again used this to bomb and invade Afghanistan. Osama Bin Laden has lived in more then one Arabic country, they bombed Afghanistan because they thought he was there. Have they found him? So all those troops who continue to die for America as I speak today? What do they fight for. Peace &amp; Democracy? While the american government breaks and re-makes international laws to better suit their wishes. I am a serb and I am proud. I am proud when pro-western people stereotype me as Nationalist,Radical &amp; Evil. I am proud because they have bad guys like me to point at, but when 9/11 happens again. I know americans will realize all along they&#8217;ve been helping the wrong people. Today Albanians praise the American flag, tommorow they will be burning it. Thaci and the KLA was funded by the Al Queda in the beginning to secede from Serbia and form an Islamic State. Today America is allies with Thaci &amp; KLA, at the same time claiming to fight a war on terror.</p>
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