Comments on: Chirac and Matahir http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/governments-and-parties/chirac-and-matahir/ European Opinion Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:24:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Charles http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/governments-and-parties/chirac-and-matahir/#comment-1024 Charles Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:53:05 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/wordpress/?p=93#comment-1024 Thanx very much David for helping others understand that the spineless, war-losing, filthy, non-bathing, perfidious, pussy-like, declining, faggish, nukeable, armpit-haired, Saddam-loving cheese-eating surrender monkeys are not necessarily salivating would-be nazis overwhelmed with joy everytime they see suicide bombings killing Israelis on TV. Thanx for that. Your words are a drop in an ocean of hate. Mais merci quand m?me ! Thanx very much David for helping others understand that the spineless, war-losing, filthy, non-bathing, perfidious, pussy-like, declining, faggish, nukeable, armpit-haired, Saddam-loving cheese-eating surrender monkeys are not necessarily salivating would-be nazis overwhelmed with joy everytime they see suicide bombings killing Israelis on TV.

Thanx for that.

Your words are a drop in an ocean of hate.

Mais merci quand m?me !

]]> By: Antoni Jaume http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/governments-and-parties/chirac-and-matahir/#comment-1023 Antoni Jaume Wed, 29 Oct 2003 00:57:10 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/wordpress/?p=93#comment-1023 Why do people claim that the condemnation of FP? was against procedures? DSW Why do people claim that the condemnation of FP? was against procedures?

DSW

]]> By: Abiola Lapite http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/governments-and-parties/chirac-and-matahir/#comment-1022 Abiola Lapite Wed, 29 Oct 2003 00:03:54 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/wordpress/?p=93#comment-1022 If this was all just an "anti-French smear campaign", and if Chirac really was the heroic figure that Mark Kleiman makes him out to be (rather than a canny politician who understood just how bad the fallout from his initial opposition to a statement was getting), why did Mahathir see fit to thank him for his understanding? And if Kleiman's claims about EU procedures are correct, why is it that the same EU could violate these same procedures to condemn Austria when the FP? first got a share of power? Mark Kleiman is simply doing a run-of-the-mill Democratic Party hit-piece on Bush here, rather than getting to the heart of some deep truth that "righty blogs" have somehow missed. Kleiman's piece is as worth taking seriously as Krugman's on this same issue, i.e, not at all. If this was all just an “anti-French smear campaign”, and if Chirac really was the heroic figure that Mark Kleiman makes him out to be (rather than a canny politician who understood just how bad the fallout from his initial opposition to a statement was getting), why did Mahathir see fit to thank him for his understanding? And if Kleiman’s claims about EU procedures are correct, why is it that the same EU could violate these same procedures to condemn Austria when the FP? first got a share of power?

Mark Kleiman is simply doing a run-of-the-mill Democratic Party hit-piece on Bush here, rather than getting to the heart of some deep truth that “righty blogs” have somehow missed. Kleiman’s piece is as worth taking seriously as Krugman’s on this same issue, i.e, not at all.

]]> By: Chocolatier http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/governments-and-parties/chirac-and-matahir/#comment-1021 Chocolatier Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:50:46 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/wordpress/?p=93#comment-1021 One more anti-French smear campaign - nothing new really. One more anti-French smear campaign - nothing new really.

]]> By: FransGroenendijk http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/governments-and-parties/chirac-and-matahir/#comment-1020 FransGroenendijk Tue, 28 Oct 2003 05:53:20 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/wordpress/?p=93#comment-1020 "There is a feeling of hopelessness among the Muslim countries and their people. They feel that they can do nothing right. They believe that things can only get worse. The Muslims will forever be oppressed and dominated by the Europeans and the Jews. They will forever be poor, backward and weak. Some believe, as I have said, this is the Will of Allah, that the proper state of the Muslims is to be poor and oppressed in this world." Cited from http://www.yourish.com/archives/2003/mahathir.htmlthe speech Mahathir gave. This Mahathir is a dictator. The mere fact that he ruled his country for 25 years suggests strongly in direction already (compare with Mugabe Denktash Castro...). But let's not conentrate on what Chirac said or did not say about him. I sure dislike what he says (especially on Jews) but it is not that outright anti-semitism that is suggested everywhere. It's despair what we see here. He even said "We also know that not all non-Muslims are against us. Some are well disposed towards us. Some even see our enemies as their enemies. Even among the Jews there are many who do not approve of what the Israelis are doing." Concerning problems with countries with a majority of the people praising Allah or Mohammed we should not forget that it's always dictators using the Islam for their purposes: we should focus on the dictators not on their use of the Islam. “There is a feeling of hopelessness among the Muslim countries and their people. They feel that they can do nothing right. They believe that things can only get worse. The Muslims will forever be oppressed and dominated by the Europeans and the Jews. They will forever be poor, backward and weak. Some believe, as I have said, this is the Will of Allah, that the proper state of the Muslims is to be poor and oppressed in this world.”
Cited from http://www.yourish.com/archives/2003/mahathir.htmlthe speech Mahathir gave.
This Mahathir is a dictator. The mere fact that he ruled his country for 25 years suggests strongly in direction already (compare with Mugabe Denktash Castro…). But let’s not conentrate on what Chirac said or did not say about him.
I sure dislike what he says (especially on Jews) but it is not that outright anti-semitism that is suggested everywhere. It’s despair what we see here.
He even said “We also know that not all non-Muslims are against us. Some are well disposed towards us. Some even see our enemies as their enemies. Even among the Jews there are many who do not approve of what the Israelis are doing.”

Concerning problems with countries with a majority of the people praising Allah or Mohammed we should not forget that it’s always dictators using the Islam for their purposes: we should focus on the dictators not on their use of the Islam.

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