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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stratfor Morning Intelligence Brief - Sept. 23, 2005

&quot;1149 GMT -- GERMANY -- Survey results released Sept. 23 in Germany show that 47 percent of those polled want Christian Democratic Union (CDU) leader Angela Merkel to be the country&#039;s next chancellor, and 44 percent favor incumbent Gerhard Schroeder of the Social Democrats. The Emnid polling institute survey also shows that 73 percent oppose new elections to resolve the standoff. One in four Germans backs a coalition government between Merkel and Schroeder&#039;s parties, and one in three prefers a coalition of the CDU, sister party the Christian Social Union (CSU), the liberal Free Democrats and the environmentalist Greens.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stratfor Morning Intelligence Brief &#8211; Sept. 23, 2005</p>
<p>&#8220;1149 GMT &#8212; GERMANY &#8212; Survey results released Sept. 23 in Germany show that 47 percent of those polled want Christian Democratic Union (CDU) leader Angela Merkel to be the country&#8217;s next chancellor, and 44 percent favor incumbent Gerhard Schroeder of the Social Democrats. The Emnid polling institute survey also shows that 73 percent oppose new elections to resolve the standoff. One in four Germans backs a coalition government between Merkel and Schroeder&#8217;s parties, and one in three prefers a coalition of the CDU, sister party the Christian Social Union (CSU), the liberal Free Democrats and the environmentalist Greens.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 03:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bayern-bikini rocks! Thanks for the tip, Mrs T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bayern-bikini rocks! Thanks for the tip, Mrs T.</p>
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		<title>By: c</title>
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		<dc:creator>c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 01:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diner is the conventional methode. It was how Blair was choosen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diner is the conventional methode. It was how Blair was choosen</p>
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		<title>By: Florian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 01:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Colin:
Excellent question.

No, there is no such understanding.
And the fact that there are actually 2 parties who have to agree on 1 candidate makes the selection process somewhat troublesome.
The process is very informal and the matter is generally settled by arrangement between the two party leaders (in 2002 for instance, the decisive meeting was at breakfast in Mr Stoiber&#039;s house).
Of course, if none of them is willing to back down, things can get messy.

The fact that there are two parties involved, makes it impossible to chose a candidate by mor conventional methods such as a vote of the party members or by a party assembly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Colin:<br />
Excellent question.</p>
<p>No, there is no such understanding.<br />
And the fact that there are actually 2 parties who have to agree on 1 candidate makes the selection process somewhat troublesome.<br />
The process is very informal and the matter is generally settled by arrangement between the two party leaders (in 2002 for instance, the decisive meeting was at breakfast in Mr Stoiber&#8217;s house).<br />
Of course, if none of them is willing to back down, things can get messy.</p>
<p>The fact that there are two parties involved, makes it impossible to chose a candidate by mor conventional methods such as a vote of the party members or by a party assembly.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 22:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just out of interest, can someone with greater knowledge of German politics tell me if there is some written or (far more likely) unwritten CDU/CSU Frakion rule that every three or four federal elections the CSU leader has to be the Fraktion&#039;s candidate for chancellor?  Presumably this would be justified in that the CDU is something 3 or 4 times bigger than the Bavarian cousin, but that would probably be just the cover story.  As far as I know, the CSU leader has run for chancellor only twice (Strauss in 1980 and Stoiber in 2002), but I&#039;m curious about the mechanism by which they decide which party leader will be the top dog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just out of interest, can someone with greater knowledge of German politics tell me if there is some written or (far more likely) unwritten CDU/CSU Frakion rule that every three or four federal elections the CSU leader has to be the Fraktion&#8217;s candidate for chancellor?  Presumably this would be justified in that the CDU is something 3 or 4 times bigger than the Bavarian cousin, but that would probably be just the cover story.  As far as I know, the CSU leader has run for chancellor only twice (Strauss in 1980 and Stoiber in 2002), but I&#8217;m curious about the mechanism by which they decide which party leader will be the top dog.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs Tilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs Tilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, those of you who share the CSU&#039;s ideals should really consider showing your support in a material way at the party&#039;s online shop. If (for instance) you&#039;re a clericalist-conservative woman who hasn&#039;t let too much Hax&#039;n and Weissbier ruin her figure, what better way to show the world you&#039;re schwarz than this weiss-blauer bikini? A so wos fesches!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, those of you who share the CSU&#8217;s ideals should really consider showing your support in a material way at the party&#8217;s online shop. If (for instance) you&#8217;re a clericalist-conservative woman who hasn&#8217;t let too much Hax&#8217;n and Weissbier ruin her figure, what better way to show the world you&#8217;re schwarz than this weiss-blauer bikini? A so wos fesches!</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs Tilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs Tilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CDU and CSU are indisputably separate and distinct parties. They even have different origins. The CDU is the old Zentrum, except that in its resurrected form it is no longer a specifically Roman Catholic confessional party. Their Bavarian partner evolved, IIANM, from the pre-NS Bayerische Volkspartei.</p>
<p>Müntefering isn&#8217;t wrong to state that CDU and CSU are separate parties. But that fact is irrelevant to his argument that SPD has first dibs at naming a chancellor, because what matters in the Bundestag is not party but &#8216;caucus&#8217; (Fraktion). And CDU/CSU do form a unified Fraktion. They do not compete anywhere in Germany. (You might recall that, shortly after unification, the CSU sponsored an eastern puppet &#8212; the DSU &#8212; that might have been a trial balloon for dissolving the Fraktion. Whether it was or not, in the event the DSU didn&#8217;t come to anything and has long since disappeared.)</p>
<p>Mind you, just because Müntefering is playing cute doesn&#8217;t mean that the Union naming the chancellor in a grand coalition is a constitutional imperative. And it&#8217;s true that the Union, with this formally correct but itself rather cute &#8216;two parties, one Fraktion&#8217; distinction, is on a number of fronts able to have its cake and eat it too.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re: CDU and CSU.</p>
<p>They have different positions; they have different leaders; they have different names; they have different levels of support. Are they not separate parties? If not, then of what, precisely, is Hr Dr Edmund Stoiber chairman?</p>
<p>Of course it&#8217;s a cheeky move by Münterfering to point this out. Doesn&#8217;t make him wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: David Weman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Weman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 04:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, this isn&#039;t a &quot;crisis&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, this isn&#8217;t a &#8220;crisis&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: khr</title>
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		<dc:creator>khr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have genuine news, BTW.
.... 
Not surprising, really.

Err... Huh... ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have genuine news, BTW.<br />
&#8230;.<br />
Not surprising, really.</p>
<p>Err&#8230; Huh&#8230; ?</p>
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