I live in china for 18 years and things happened around me,today someone said it was nothing but a lie?Do you think the girl who was killed by Dalai Lama and his minions is a migration?Who suffered the most in this tragedy?You don’t know!You don’t really want to know about the truth because you don’t really care about it!It is funny for the crowed join the liberation army of Tibet?Shame You!!

After all,we are no right to be heard.We are all “brainwashed’ remember?

Secondly, and more importantly, Europe’s credibility is at stake. Awarding the games to Beijing was done at full knowledge of conditions in China. By our own stated standards even an olympic boycott would be insufficient. Yet again first The West said and did one thing and then after a development we knew to be quite possible Europe says the opposite but its words don’t match the actions.

Europe needs to start telling the truth: The support of human rights abroad is a secondary concern.

Regarding settlement with Han, it should be remembered that East Turkestan is the place with the oil and the minerals. China, probably correctly, considers trouble in Tibet to cause trouble in other areas, too, if it isn’t surpressed decisively.

trying to educate myself on things beyond Pristina, like the Olympics, and came across someone called Paul C who plays football in Tivat. It struck me that it might be the very same Paul C who stayed with us last year on the way back to Montenegro. If so, a) hello and b)maybe I’ll see you in June - I’m due to be near Tivat at a Balkans youth camp. Who says the Olympics doesn’t bring people together…

As far as I can tell from this and this, China’s GDP per capita in renminbi is 16 thousand. A list of GDP per capita in China’s top-level subdivisions is here.

You’ll note that Xinjiang is slightly below this but still above the level of many Chinese provinces, and has booming extractive and manufacturing industries besides. People are moving in very significant numbers to Xinjiang because that province has an economy that offers jobs. In all honesty, I expect Xinjiang to become and remain a Han-majority jurisdiction pretty soon. There’s an economic justification for a ery large Han Chinese population there, just as there was an economic justification for heavy Slavic immigration to the Baltics during the Soviet period.

Tibet’s different, only slightly wealthier than poorer provinces mostly in the southwest and very inhospitable. At the same time, the province suffers from very low levels of education and professional skills, a traditional deficit that has remained. Who is the Chinese government going to turn to but to people who have those skills elsewhere in the country? Many of these people will be temporary migrants if only because they don’t want to live in this environment. Many of these people will stay because they’re needed.

Don’t think Rîga. Think Yellowknife, or Godthab/Nuuk, instead.

As things stand, the attacks on ethnic Chinese and other Sinophone migrants leave me cold. Ethnic purity isn’t the way to go for any people, least of not one that’s led by a government in diaspora.

But demographics notwithstanding, Chukhotka is still governed from Moscow.

The Tibetans aren’t going to disappear. Tibet is a poor and environmentally hostile land. Who’s going to move there in any number? One might as well expect that the Inuit of Nunavut will be overwhelmed by waves of non-Inuit Canadians, who outnumber the people of Nunavut by something like 500:1 (ethnic Tibetans are outnumbered by Han something like 200:1).

I’m quite willing to bet that there will still be a Tibet in a century’s time.

awful typo
2nd para
assimilation will remove tibeten nationalism

was ment to be
assimilation will not remove tibeten nationalism

oliver, assimilation will remove tibeten nationalism, effectively it may create a minority, however small that minority is perhaps they still desire independant rule. albanians did in kosovo o so very recently.

Powell Lucas: i am entitled to hold the opinion that i may not be aware of all of the tibeten history, however when i see peacefull people (the monks and civilians) willing to risk life and limb in an attempt to obtain (or restore, im not even sure) independence im pretty sure they know what they are doing and they believe they are right.
the chinnesse reaction also helps form my opinion as well.

as an irishman i cannot but sympathize, since i have a keen awareness of the ability of nationalism, like religion, to remain active for centries. dosent really matter what athourties do since the more they crack down, the more it becomes an ideal. really i may be a leftie, but surely people comit genocide becuase they do not want to deal with the consequences of nationalism. (i dont agree with Paul C on this point at all).

personally, i’m with the tibetens, id much rather see a non violent end to this. is that possible? yes, happen soon? no. i see a bottom up change coming in china. it may be peaceful, might not (thats the scary one), will happen becuase chinesse people will soon be finished leapfrogging and there will be one very wealthy country with a people with almost nothing to show for their wealth. (scary option here is that china breaks the ladder climbing up and then everyone falls off.)

as for sport, let that go on, one way or another, most of us in the world are sport consumers. i dont see any great benit from boycotting the opening cermonoy, its merely token gesture (cause its politicians). i do see benit in protesting at the torch, the difficulty sponsers are having. the celebs rolling in too. it all makes it uncomfortable for the chinness government. after that its up to the chinness people.

powell lucas, imo the US/iraq protests did have an effect. certainly you have 2 presidential hopefulls (no idea on mcains position) talking about how they can “restore” the worlds faith in the big ould US of A. you may call it rethoric, i think it at least means some people in usa think its an election issue.