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	<title>Comments on: Former Belgian PM Guy Verhofstadt on Europe and the financial crisis</title>
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		<title>By: Jean-Pierre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 02:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this will contribute to a multipolar quality of life for all : fair prices on real estate and raw materials, energy, fresh air and water ? Education and healthcare ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this will contribute to a multipolar quality of life for all : fair prices on real estate and raw materials, energy, fresh air and water ? Education and healthcare ?</p>
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		<title>By: Setup Hong Kong Company</title>
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		<dc:creator>Setup Hong Kong Company</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What actually happens is that each nation pursues its own interest, and to what extent those interests combine led to the formation of sub-groups in the larger group. We see this now with the UK and the new Eastern Europeans nations taking a tough line to Russia and the Germans, French and Italians taking a soft line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What actually happens is that each nation pursues its own interest, and to what extent those interests combine led to the formation of sub-groups in the larger group. We see this now with the UK and the new Eastern Europeans nations taking a tough line to Russia and the Germans, French and Italians taking a soft line.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NATO cannot even agree on a common policy in Afghanistan. Prior to that it flew sorties against a nation that didn&#039;t seriously strike back.

To be a tool of foreign policy a military must be able to attack. NATO isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NATO cannot even agree on a common policy in Afghanistan. Prior to that it flew sorties against a nation that didn&#8217;t seriously strike back.</p>
<p>To be a tool of foreign policy a military must be able to attack. NATO isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Europe in its current form is not capable of meaningful action on the world stage. It is barely capable of immediate self-defence, let alone rising to the occasion where a tough stance with short-term costs is advisable.&lt;/em&gt;

We call it &quot;NATO&quot; and it has nuclear weapons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Europe in its current form is not capable of meaningful action on the world stage. It is barely capable of immediate self-defence, let alone rising to the occasion where a tough stance with short-term costs is advisable.</em></p>
<p>We call it &#8220;NATO&#8221; and it has nuclear weapons.</p>
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		<title>By: Blank Xavier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blank Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that multiple nations will band together and exhibit a common foreign policy is completely crazy.

(The canonical disproof was the lead up to WW2).

What actually happens is that each nation pursues its own interest, and to what extent those interests combine led to the formation of sub-groups in the larger group.  We see this now with the UK and the new Eastern Europeans nations taking a tough line to Russia and the Germans, French and Italians taking a soft line.

In the interest in preserving harmony, all that can be done while remaining whole is the weakest common response.

Europe in its current form is not capable of meaningful action on the world stage.  It is barely capable of immediate self-defence, let alone rising to the occasion where a tough stance with short-term costs is advisable.

One way to resolve this is to politically unify foreign policy.  Let alone the question itself of whether this is desireable, I wonder even if this would solve the problem, since it would require individual nation states to fully give up foreign policy.  I don&#039;t see how this could occur while individual states retain national interests, since those interests will drive national foreign policy, subverting the supposed central foreign policy.

Personally, I&#039;m inclined towards an economic integration for Europe, but not a political integration.  This would require politicians to keep fully out of economics, which is currently only a dream of a liberty which does not exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that multiple nations will band together and exhibit a common foreign policy is completely crazy.</p>
<p>(The canonical disproof was the lead up to WW2).</p>
<p>What actually happens is that each nation pursues its own interest, and to what extent those interests combine led to the formation of sub-groups in the larger group.  We see this now with the UK and the new Eastern Europeans nations taking a tough line to Russia and the Germans, French and Italians taking a soft line.</p>
<p>In the interest in preserving harmony, all that can be done while remaining whole is the weakest common response.</p>
<p>Europe in its current form is not capable of meaningful action on the world stage.  It is barely capable of immediate self-defence, let alone rising to the occasion where a tough stance with short-term costs is advisable.</p>
<p>One way to resolve this is to politically unify foreign policy.  Let alone the question itself of whether this is desireable, I wonder even if this would solve the problem, since it would require individual nation states to fully give up foreign policy.  I don&#8217;t see how this could occur while individual states retain national interests, since those interests will drive national foreign policy, subverting the supposed central foreign policy.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m inclined towards an economic integration for Europe, but not a political integration.  This would require politicians to keep fully out of economics, which is currently only a dream of a liberty which does not exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever the problem, Verhofstadt always has the same solution.</description>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It starts with the common observation of multipolarity. Then it simply claims that the solution is a centralised policy. Which makes me wonder why this crisis started in the US and housing bubbles due to maladapted interest rates arose in some parts of Europe.

In short, somebody gave in to wishful thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It starts with the common observation of multipolarity. Then it simply claims that the solution is a centralised policy. Which makes me wonder why this crisis started in the US and housing bubbles due to maladapted interest rates arose in some parts of Europe.</p>
<p>In short, somebody gave in to wishful thinking.</p>
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