Comments on: Dreams of empire (plus bleg for our Turkish readers) http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/dreams-of-empire-plus-bleg-for-our-turkish-readers/ European Opinion Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:02:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Alex http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/dreams-of-empire-plus-bleg-for-our-turkish-readers/#comment-19272 Alex Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:04:28 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/dreams-of-empire-plus-bleg-for-our-turkish-readers#comment-19272 Well, Enver Pasha thought he would create a pan-Turkic empire in Central Asia, with a few German military advisers and the Russian revolution for assistance. Well, Enver Pasha thought he would create a pan-Turkic empire in Central Asia, with a few German military advisers and the Russian revolution for assistance.

]]> By: Huib, Brussels http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/dreams-of-empire-plus-bleg-for-our-turkish-readers/#comment-19271 Huib, Brussels Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:46:10 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/dreams-of-empire-plus-bleg-for-our-turkish-readers#comment-19271 Sorry, I forgot to say that the blogpost I refer to, explains the orange, *Dutch* worldwide claims like James does for the Turkish ones. Sorry, I forgot to say that the blogpost I refer to, explains the orange, *Dutch* worldwide claims like James does for the Turkish ones.

]]> By: Huib, Brussels http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/dreams-of-empire-plus-bleg-for-our-turkish-readers/#comment-19270 Huib, Brussels Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:35:07 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/dreams-of-empire-plus-bleg-for-our-turkish-readers#comment-19270 http://athomeineurope.huibs.net/2008/03/christian-and-muslim-dreams-of-empire.html#links http://athomeineurope.huibs.net/2008/03/christian-and-muslim-dreams-of-empire.html#links

]]> By: erkan http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/dreams-of-empire-plus-bleg-for-our-turkish-readers/#comment-19266 erkan Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:50:59 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/dreams-of-empire-plus-bleg-for-our-turkish-readers#comment-19266 there was even an official claim that all languages derived from Turkish. Sun Language Theory- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Language_Theory but this is quite an old and dismissed claim. however, some ultranationalists seem to maintain parallel ideas... there was even an official claim that all languages derived from Turkish.
Sun Language Theory- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Language_Theory

but this is quite an old and dismissed claim. however, some ultranationalists seem to maintain parallel ideas…

]]> By: James R MacLean http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/dreams-of-empire-plus-bleg-for-our-turkish-readers/#comment-19254 James R MacLean Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:56:18 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/dreams-of-empire-plus-bleg-for-our-turkish-readers#comment-19254 What Cyrus said. I think some people have far too much time on their hands. Basically there is a certain logical progression (mildly amusing, but here it is): (1) lands occupied by ethnic Turks (e.g, the CIS "stans", northern Iran, Turkey, parts of Iraq and n. Syria, and Xingiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of China. (2) lands formerly ruled by Turkish ethnics (or linguists, actually)--hence, the rest of China, the rest of the CIS, sw Asia & n. Africa, etc. (3) lands ruled at some time by peoples who where themselves formerly ruled by Turkic peoples--hence, (supersized) Alaska, Poland, and Finland (fmrly part of the Russian Empire), Korea & Myanmar (fmrly party of the Yüan Dynasty in China), and so on. (4) Lands in the Islamic caliphate (hence, Malay Archipelago, e. Africa, rest of Iran, s. India); (5) Lands that supposedly will be settled by large numbers of Muslims ("Eurabia", n.w. Australia, and the La Plata region of Argentina, Paraguay, and Brazil). Get it? Hahahaha. What Cyrus said. I think some people have far too much time on their hands.

Basically there is a certain logical progression (mildly amusing, but here it is):
(1) lands occupied by ethnic Turks (e.g, the CIS “stans”, northern Iran, Turkey, parts of Iraq and n. Syria, and Xingiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of China.
(2) lands formerly ruled by Turkish ethnics (or linguists, actually)–hence, the rest of China, the rest of the CIS, sw Asia & n. Africa, etc.
(3) lands ruled at some time by peoples who where themselves formerly ruled by Turkic peoples–hence, (supersized) Alaska, Poland, and Finland (fmrly part of the Russian Empire), Korea & Myanmar (fmrly party of the Yüan Dynasty in China), and so on.
(4) Lands in the Islamic caliphate (hence, Malay Archipelago, e. Africa, rest of Iran, s. India);
(5) Lands that supposedly will be settled by large numbers of Muslims (”Eurabia”, n.w. Australia, and the La Plata region of Argentina, Paraguay, and Brazil).

Get it? Hahahaha.

]]> By: Cyrus http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/dreams-of-empire-plus-bleg-for-our-turkish-readers/#comment-19247 Cyrus Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:45:05 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/dreams-of-empire-plus-bleg-for-our-turkish-readers#comment-19247 I for one welcome our new Brabantine overlords. Seriously though, looking at a couple of the other videos that came up after watching that one, I think it's a satire of a legitimate Turkish ethnonationalist video, one with more modest imperial ambitions. I for one welcome our new Brabantine overlords.

Seriously though, looking at a couple of the other videos that came up after watching that one, I think it’s a satire of a legitimate Turkish ethnonationalist video, one with more modest imperial ambitions.

]]> By: Dylan http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/dreams-of-empire-plus-bleg-for-our-turkish-readers/#comment-19245 Dylan Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:20:59 +0000 http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/dreams-of-empire-plus-bleg-for-our-turkish-readers#comment-19245 Just a note from an Aussie... If that video is real then the parts of Australia set for conquering are inhabited by almost nobody. Sure, there are a few thousand in Darwin but we are talking about two percent of the Aussie population here. I reckon it has to be a joke. :) Just a note from an Aussie…

If that video is real then the parts of Australia set for conquering are inhabited by almost nobody. Sure, there are a few thousand in Darwin but we are talking about two percent of the Aussie population here.

I reckon it has to be a joke. :)

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