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	<title>Comments on: The Pressure is Building in Iceland</title>
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		<title>By: Barry Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More paragraph breaks and more commas - and not just after introductory phrases like &quot;moreover&quot;, &quot;obviously&quot; and &quot;in fact&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More paragraph breaks and more commas &#8211; and not just after introductory phrases like &#8220;moreover&#8221;, &#8220;obviously&#8221; and &#8220;in fact&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any reason to assume that the central banks of Europe and the US are unaware of this or would refuse a loan so that bank runs be stopped at the source?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any reason to assume that the central banks of Europe and the US are unaware of this or would refuse a loan so that bank runs be stopped at the source?</p>
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		<title>By: Claus Vistesen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claus Vistesen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Paul C ... 

I guess this is the question we all want to answer. The first thing we need to think about is whether Iceland is about to crash in anything meaningful way. I still think this is doubtful even if the recent depreciation of the Krona was quite severe. Wolfgang Munchau from the FT discusses this in a recent note and as he points to all this is driven by the speculation rather than fundamentals. Yet, this is scarcely comforting since experience tells us that once we are this stage the link between fundamentals and animal spirits is often blurred. 

Clearly, the financial sector in Iceland is taking an undue beating and those credit default swaps (i.e. implied probability of defaults) seems to be rather high given the fact that these banks are well diversified. But then again, who knows what they got on their balance sheets at this point? 

If Iceland defaults on part of its debt or if one of the big banks collapses it would obviously have consequences for the rest of Europe not least as a knock-on effect on confidence which is already low, but on the real economy; not a whole lot. I also think that we need to remember that the Icelandic banks have branches in Europe which would allow them to tap the ECB for liquidity so the odds are still fairly low I would say. 

In the end it is impossible to tell at this stage since the markets are very jittery. The best thing you can do at the moment is to watch closely and be careful where you put your money :). The heavy depreciation of the ISK recently is definitely a sign that the we are not done yet. 

I still think that Iceland and/or Eastern Europe could be potential sources for even more drama than we have had so far but at this point we are in the middle of a process very few investors understand so reactions will be anything but forseeable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Paul C &#8230; </p>
<p>I guess this is the question we all want to answer. The first thing we need to think about is whether Iceland is about to crash in anything meaningful way. I still think this is doubtful even if the recent depreciation of the Krona was quite severe. Wolfgang Munchau from the FT discusses this in a recent note and as he points to all this is driven by the speculation rather than fundamentals. Yet, this is scarcely comforting since experience tells us that once we are this stage the link between fundamentals and animal spirits is often blurred. </p>
<p>Clearly, the financial sector in Iceland is taking an undue beating and those credit default swaps (i.e. implied probability of defaults) seems to be rather high given the fact that these banks are well diversified. But then again, who knows what they got on their balance sheets at this point? </p>
<p>If Iceland defaults on part of its debt or if one of the big banks collapses it would obviously have consequences for the rest of Europe not least as a knock-on effect on confidence which is already low, but on the real economy; not a whole lot. I also think that we need to remember that the Icelandic banks have branches in Europe which would allow them to tap the ECB for liquidity so the odds are still fairly low I would say. </p>
<p>In the end it is impossible to tell at this stage since the markets are very jittery. The best thing you can do at the moment is to watch closely and be careful where you put your money <img src='http://fistfulofeuros.net/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . The heavy depreciation of the ISK recently is definitely a sign that the we are not done yet. </p>
<p>I still think that Iceland and/or Eastern Europe could be potential sources for even more drama than we have had so far but at this point we are in the middle of a process very few investors understand so reactions will be anything but forseeable.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a quiet support for the Icelandic financial sector; IIRC they have a favourable tax treaty with Russia, dating from Soviet times, which makes it a handy way of getting dubious Russian funds out of Russia and re-invested in western markets. At least, I recall this circulating as an explanation when Landsbanki suddenly appeared in the London markets a few years back and bought most of them:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a quiet support for the Icelandic financial sector; IIRC they have a favourable tax treaty with Russia, dating from Soviet times, which makes it a handy way of getting dubious Russian funds out of Russia and re-invested in western markets. At least, I recall this circulating as an explanation when Landsbanki suddenly appeared in the London markets a few years back and bought most of them:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claus - nice overview, thanks. What are your thoughts on the ramifications of the Iceland crisis for other economies in Europe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claus &#8211; nice overview, thanks. What are your thoughts on the ramifications of the Iceland crisis for other economies in Europe?</p>
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