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		<title>By: Mark Amerman</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/onwards-and-upwards-we-go/comment-page-1/#comment-5826</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Amerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remi said,

&quot;America above average growth was possible thanks to the
FED printing money like hell.&quot;

No, the deficits have been financed by borrowing.  The
Treasury issues bonds and investors, often foreign governments,
and in particular China, buy them.

It&#039;s always been obvious what&#039;s going on.  People always knew
the bonds would be paid back in dollars worth less than what
they were bought with. If governments have been willing to pay
for these bonds then it&#039;s because the perceived alternatives
seemed worse.  What would have happened if China hadn&#039;t bought
so many of these bonds the last few years?

Then the dollar would have fallen already.  US exports would
have been considerably more competitive and imports correspondingly 
less.  The U.S. trade deficit today would be much smaller.
Chinese economic growth would not have been quite so
rapid.  The U.S. might have kept a larger manufacturing base than
it has today.  Much of europe might have gone into recession,
and/or a deeper recession than already experienced.

The point is no one has been fooling anybody.  Unless
they want to be fooled.  Every proposed path has consequences
good and bad.  The big U.S. trade deficit has been
propping up the world economy but the costs of maintaining
that deficit are becoming unbearable.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remi said,</p>
<p>&#8220;America above average growth was possible thanks to the<br />
FED printing money like hell.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, the deficits have been financed by borrowing.  The<br />
Treasury issues bonds and investors, often foreign governments,<br />
and in particular China, buy them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always been obvious what&#8217;s going on.  People always knew<br />
the bonds would be paid back in dollars worth less than what<br />
they were bought with. If governments have been willing to pay<br />
for these bonds then it&#8217;s because the perceived alternatives<br />
seemed worse.  What would have happened if China hadn&#8217;t bought<br />
so many of these bonds the last few years?</p>
<p>Then the dollar would have fallen already.  US exports would<br />
have been considerably more competitive and imports correspondingly<br />
less.  The U.S. trade deficit today would be much smaller.<br />
Chinese economic growth would not have been quite so<br />
rapid.  The U.S. might have kept a larger manufacturing base than<br />
it has today.  Much of europe might have gone into recession,<br />
and/or a deeper recession than already experienced.</p>
<p>The point is no one has been fooling anybody.  Unless<br />
they want to be fooled.  Every proposed path has consequences<br />
good and bad.  The big U.S. trade deficit has been<br />
propping up the world economy but the costs of maintaining<br />
that deficit are becoming unbearable.</p>
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		<title>By: mattew</title>
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		<dc:creator>mattew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2004 21:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this isn?t helping either 
from Bloomberg:
&quot;Greenspan Says U.S. Can&#039;t Be `Complacent&#039; on Deficits
Foreign investors will reach a limit in their desire to finance the U.S. current account deficit and eventually diversify into other currencies or demand higher U.S. interest rates, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said. The dollar extended declines against the euro and yen.&quot;

Thanx Alan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this isn?t helping either<br />
from Bloomberg:<br />
&#8220;Greenspan Says U.S. Can&#8217;t Be `Complacent&#8217; on Deficits<br />
Foreign investors will reach a limit in their desire to finance the U.S. current account deficit and eventually diversify into other currencies or demand higher U.S. interest rates, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said. The dollar extended declines against the euro and yen.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanx Alan!</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs Tilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs Tilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RSN,

if history is anything to go by, the USA will, at some point, &#039;become Argentina&#039;. That is to say, it will have had its run, but some other nation will eclipse it. 

And the world&#039;s economy won&#039;t necessarily collapse as a result, so long as something else can replace the USA as the world&#039;s dominant economic superpower. Perhaps this will be the EU (though I am sceptical of it); perhaps it will be China or India. Or perhaps it might be (say) Brazil; a laughable idea today, to be sure, but America&#039;s run might well continue for another century or so, and who can say what Brazil will be like at that point? (Who would have imagined China or India as economic BSDs a century ago?)

This is not criticism of America, much less anticipatory gloating. But nothing lasts forever. If America&#039;s hyperpuissant star should one day decline, Spain and France and Britain (to say nothing of Rome and Macedonia) may be able to offer their old friend tips on adjusting to diminished status. In the mean time, I do hope its run will continue for a while. China or India might have the potential someday to displace the US economically. But I should not like to see them do so before they have evolved very considerably politically (especially in the case of China, but also to some degree in India&#039;s case as well.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RSN,</p>
<p>if history is anything to go by, the USA will, at some point, &#8216;become Argentina&#8217;. That is to say, it will have had its run, but some other nation will eclipse it. </p>
<p>And the world&#8217;s economy won&#8217;t necessarily collapse as a result, so long as something else can replace the USA as the world&#8217;s dominant economic superpower. Perhaps this will be the EU (though I am sceptical of it); perhaps it will be China or India. Or perhaps it might be (say) Brazil; a laughable idea today, to be sure, but America&#8217;s run might well continue for another century or so, and who can say what Brazil will be like at that point? (Who would have imagined China or India as economic BSDs a century ago?)</p>
<p>This is not criticism of America, much less anticipatory gloating. But nothing lasts forever. If America&#8217;s hyperpuissant star should one day decline, Spain and France and Britain (to say nothing of Rome and Macedonia) may be able to offer their old friend tips on adjusting to diminished status. In the mean time, I do hope its run will continue for a while. China or India might have the potential someday to displace the US economically. But I should not like to see them do so before they have evolved very considerably politically (especially in the case of China, but also to some degree in India&#8217;s case as well.)</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2004 06:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s true that you can&#039;t let your best customers go broke, but you can extort and threaten them. China could let loose with just enough limp dollars to get everyone&#039;s attention, then offer to make a deal. On Taiwan, perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true that you can&#8217;t let your best customers go broke, but you can extort and threaten them. China could let loose with just enough limp dollars to get everyone&#8217;s attention, then offer to make a deal. On Taiwan, perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: RSN</title>
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		<dc:creator>RSN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2004 04:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And when the US becomes Argentina, so will the economy of the entire world collapse.

There&#039;s an equal danger in being dependent on trade surpluses.  You simply can&#039;t let your best customers go broke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when the US becomes Argentina, so will the economy of the entire world collapse.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an equal danger in being dependent on trade surpluses.  You simply can&#8217;t let your best customers go broke.</p>
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		<title>By: Remi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Remi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2004 03:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>remember &quot;The Dollar is our currency, and YOUR problem&quot;.
It&#039;s pay back time!!!
 America above average growth was possible thanks to the FED printing money like hell.
Now they hope the dollar going down will allow them to payback the loan with funny money.
 It&#039;s going to be painful for the EU but wait to see waht could happen if China decide to unload this shitty currency. Interest rates will have to go up in the US and bye-bye the dream of &quot;Grandeur&quot;. In a dime the US status will switch from Hyperpower to Argentina.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>remember &#8220;The Dollar is our currency, and YOUR problem&#8221;.<br />
It&#8217;s pay back time!!!<br />
 America above average growth was possible thanks to the FED printing money like hell.<br />
Now they hope the dollar going down will allow them to payback the loan with funny money.<br />
 It&#8217;s going to be painful for the EU but wait to see waht could happen if China decide to unload this shitty currency. Interest rates will have to go up in the US and bye-bye the dream of &#8220;Grandeur&#8221;. In a dime the US status will switch from Hyperpower to Argentina.</p>
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		<title>By: Tobias</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody knew this was going to happen eventually. I hear the particularly sensitive German exporters are still hedged very well, including increased natural hedging in the case of car makers particularly.

Maybe I&#039;m going to write something about the German government&#039;s council of economic advisor&#039;s autumn report. They&#039;re cautiously optimistic and are now bashing their natural allies in the opposition. That&#039;s good news for economic politics and policy. Now the CDU/CSU will no longer be able to try to block in the upper chamber and blame it on the federal government. The blame is increasingly on them. On Tuesday, their health reform proposal got bashed extensively by the employer association... they will have to be less smug in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody knew this was going to happen eventually. I hear the particularly sensitive German exporters are still hedged very well, including increased natural hedging in the case of car makers particularly.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m going to write something about the German government&#8217;s council of economic advisor&#8217;s autumn report. They&#8217;re cautiously optimistic and are now bashing their natural allies in the opposition. That&#8217;s good news for economic politics and policy. Now the CDU/CSU will no longer be able to try to block in the upper chamber and blame it on the federal government. The blame is increasingly on them. On Tuesday, their health reform proposal got bashed extensively by the employer association&#8230; they will have to be less smug in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ECB, and of course any other EU central bank that came in on the party, runs the risk of having all the other central banks whose past heavy intervention left them bloated with $ unload on them. Remember Richard Whitney after the Great Crash - he kept buying shares in his own firm, and everyone else kept selling to him, with obvious results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ECB, and of course any other EU central bank that came in on the party, runs the risk of having all the other central banks whose past heavy intervention left them bloated with $ unload on them. Remember Richard Whitney after the Great Crash &#8211; he kept buying shares in his own firm, and everyone else kept selling to him, with obvious results.</p>
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