“So - how did you come to add 33 per cent to your figures?”

Because, unlike the spin doctors, I count ALL the cars destroyed by arson. Refer to this:

http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/2007/01/one-of-those-nights_01.html

which is a good interpretation of this:

http://fr.news.yahoo.com/01012007/202/nuit-du-nouvel-an-313-vehicules-incendies-et-258-interpellations.html

Although it’s entirely possible the arsonists in question only mean to burn ONE car at a time, a real test of skill would be “one shot, two kills”.

Gaming the statistics to look like a downward trend doesn’t change reality, but I’m glad to see it makes some people feel better while their country burns around them.

[Look - I was actually in France on New Year's Eve. You are a deluded troll]

According to AFP, the Ministry of the Interior counted some 313 burned-out cars and a total of 258 arrests for all crimes across France on the 31st. The Directorate-General of the National Police said in a statement that “there were no confrontations between youths and the forces of order and no reports of violent disorder or trouble on public transport, especially in the Paris region and the South-East.”

I saw with my own eyes columns of police trucks moving into central Paris on the evening of the 31st. They were not called on.

So - how did you come to add 33 per cent to your figures?

It’s almost as if the riots made these groups aware of their own existence, which it is now wanting to use in more traditional politics so to speak. Will be interesting to see the effect this will have on the presidential elections.

And yes, genuinely French = anti-clerical. Thats also why the headscarf ban at schools etc is completely OK by French republican standards.

Anyway, I think it’s very interesting that for ALL religions a majority thought they weren’t integrated in French society. Equally, Roman Catholicism was only marginally in positive territory and was second behind Islam in approval.

The last set of polls, if (as you say) the poll was confined to non-Muslims (a dubious statement, as will be seen), just appears to me to be a crude measurement of racism.

It remains to point out that Expression Publique does sign-up and we send you email polls. I don’t know how representative their samples are, nor how well protected against freeping of one persuasion or other. The poll I cited was carried out by SOFRES - do you, by the way, know the sample size?

-author/pseudo-translator makes unwarranted additions of his own: “jihad chill”, this betray his bias and intention

-extremely selective quoting, the actual poll touched the subject of Islam only on the periphery

We conclude: another Muslim-bashing troll

On the subject of the US, I don’t think there’s even one French city with the kind of guncrime and poverty with people dying on the streets like in the US.

Neither have the French democracy and republic politically sunk to a 3rd world level. The US is comparable to India: good local administration in cities, everything above is corrupt and basically criminal. Bashing the developing countries and migrant workers is an old, worn and all-too transparent tactic.

Good night.

Question 1: What is your general opinion on the three following religions?
The Catholic religion
… very good 17 %
… rather good 38 %
… rather bad 27 %
… very bad 14 %
No opinion 4 %
No response 0 %

The Jewish religion
… very good 8 %
… rather good 39 %
… rather bad 29 %
… very bad 16 %
No opinion 7 %
No response 1 %

The Islamic religion
… very good 2 %
… rather good 13 %
… rather bad 32 %
… very bad 47 %
No opinion/Jihad chill 5 %
No response/Jihad chill 1 %
By “jihad chill” I mean that some respondents would fear exercising free speech about the terror cult.

Question 3: Do you believe that the following religions are well integrated in contemporary France?
The Catholic religion
Completely 13 %
Somewhat 33 %
Barely if at all 32 %
Not at all 20 %
No opinion 2 %
No response 1 %

The Jewish religion
Completely 8 %
Somewhat 30 %
Barely if at all 31 %
Not at all 24 %
No opinion 7 %
No response 1 %

The Islamic religion
Completely 1 %
Somewhat 4 %
Barely if at all 23 %
Not at all 69 %
No opinion/Jihad chill 2 %
No response/Jihad chill 1 %

Question 6: Lastly, which words would you use to describe the Islamic religion?
CHOOSE FOUR
Influential 60 %
Not very influential 12 %
Tolerant 4 %
Intolerant 82 %
Courageous 12 %
Cowardly 27 %
Open-minded 5 %
Close-minded 81 %
No opinion/Jihad chill 3 %
No response/Jihad chill 1 %

Question 9: In your estimate of the following religions, do they express respect for French laws in public debate?
The Catholic religion
Yes 67 %
No 26 %
No opinion 7 %
No response 1 %

The Jewish religion
Yes 60 %
No 27 %
No opinion 12 %
No response 1 %

The Islamic religion
Yes 15 %
No 77 %
No opinion/Jihad chill 8 %
No response/Jihad chill 1 %

Question 10 : In your estimate, in the case of conflict of values which believers of the following religions would respect French laws over those of their religion?
Catholics
France first 78 %
Religion first 15 %
No opinion 7 %
No response 1 %

Jews
France first 48 %
Religion first 40 %
No opinion 11 %
No response 1 %

Muslims
France first 8 %
Islam first 84 %
No opinion/Jihad chill 7 %
No response/Jihad chill 1 %

The poll can be found at:
http://www.expression-publique.com/expression-publique/resultat.php?adresse=religion6