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	<title>Comments on: Secularism confronts Islam by Olivier Roy</title>
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		<title>By: Guy La Roche</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/culture/secularism-confronts-islam-by-olivier-roy/#comment-17985</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy La Roche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for pointing out to me that my next posts do not allow comments, Hektor Bim. It was a technical thingy I forgot to tick. It should work now. Sorry about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing out to me that my next posts do not allow comments, Hektor Bim. It was a technical thingy I forgot to tick. It should work now. Sorry about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Hektor Bim</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/culture/secularism-confronts-islam-by-olivier-roy/#comment-17980</link>
		<dc:creator>Hektor Bim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your next post doesn't allow comments, but if it did, I would say this:

I'm very suspicious of French attempts to preserve culture, because it puts so much effort into destroying linguistic diversity in France.  One good way to get cultural diversity is to teach Breton, Basque, Alsatian, Provencal, Dutch, etc. in public schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your next post doesn&#8217;t allow comments, but if it did, I would say this:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very suspicious of French attempts to preserve culture, because it puts so much effort into destroying linguistic diversity in France.  One good way to get cultural diversity is to teach Breton, Basque, Alsatian, Provencal, Dutch, etc. in public schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Fatih Nakış</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/culture/secularism-confronts-islam-by-olivier-roy/#comment-17949</link>
		<dc:creator>Fatih Nakış</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/culture/secularism-confronts-islam-by-olivier-roy/#comment-17943</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 04:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, Bob! Please come back to tell us what you thought of the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, Bob! Please come back to tell us what you thought of the book.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/culture/secularism-confronts-islam-by-olivier-roy/#comment-17938</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes a rather &lt;a&gt;dense individual&lt;/a&gt; to claim the real problem is Christianity in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.  I'm assuming Groucheaux is European, which would make his claim even more absurd.

Xel, &lt;i&gt;perchance&lt;/i&gt; your simply not listening or asking the right question.  The simplest definition I've  heard from people who dislike multiculturalism is that it's defined as the belief that all cultures are equal, which clearly is not the case.

I've ordered the book!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes a rather <a>dense individual</a> to claim the real problem is Christianity in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.  I&#8217;m assuming Groucheaux is European, which would make his claim even more absurd.</p>
<p>Xel, <i>perchance</i> your simply not listening or asking the right question.  The simplest definition I&#8217;ve  heard from people who dislike multiculturalism is that it&#8217;s defined as the belief that all cultures are equal, which clearly is not the case.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve ordered the book!</p>
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		<title>By: Secular science confronts Islam &#124; afoe &#124; A Fistful of Euros &#124; European Opinion</title>
		<link>http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/culture/secularism-confronts-islam-by-olivier-roy/#comment-17928</link>
		<dc:creator>Secular science confronts Islam &#124; afoe &#124; A Fistful of Euros &#124; European Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]           &#171; Secularism confronts Islam by Olivier Roy Iraqi Employees: Action Alert [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Xel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet to receive a concise, simple definition of the shibboleth that is "multiculturalism". None of the conservative hacks (but perchance I was uneconomic with my words there!) who use the word (and they *use* it, baby) give a definition of what they think it is. There is no clear accusation to defend against. Just a fudge word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to receive a concise, simple definition of the shibboleth that is &#8220;multiculturalism&#8221;. None of the conservative hacks (but perchance I was uneconomic with my words there!) who use the word (and they *use* it, baby) give a definition of what they think it is. There is no clear accusation to defend against. Just a fudge word.</p>
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		<title>By: seth edenbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator>seth edenbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The murder of Theo van Gogh was seen as proof of the failure of multiculturalism"

You don't even have "multiculturalism" in Europe-unless that means a bunch of countries predicated historically not on a form of government but on some hyperbolic sense of culture and then after that genetics.
A condescending Parisian  with brown skin and dreadlocks is a Frog to me, but not to most Frogs. A German Jew isn't German to most Germans, even today.   I'm not at all sure even liberal Europeans understand the immigrants' situation. Amusing that I live in the most "multicultural" neighborhood on Earth, and most of the immigrants here, from every part of the world, would rather be living in Europe!

Odd if multicultural social democracy finds fertile soil in the US, thanks to the European failure to extend social opportunities to its newcomers. Someone had to make my country more livable.
Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The murder of Theo van Gogh was seen as proof of the failure of multiculturalism&#8221;</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t even have &#8220;multiculturalism&#8221; in Europe-unless that means a bunch of countries predicated historically not on a form of government but on some hyperbolic sense of culture and then after that genetics.<br />
A condescending Parisian  with brown skin and dreadlocks is a Frog to me, but not to most Frogs. A German Jew isn&#8217;t German to most Germans, even today.   I&#8217;m not at all sure even liberal Europeans understand the immigrants&#8217; situation. Amusing that I live in the most &#8220;multicultural&#8221; neighborhood on Earth, and most of the immigrants here, from every part of the world, would rather be living in Europe!</p>
<p>Odd if multicultural social democracy finds fertile soil in the US, thanks to the European failure to extend social opportunities to its newcomers. Someone had to make my country more livable.<br />
Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: SN</title>
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		<dc:creator>SN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"the netherlands has one of the strongest neo-nazi movements in Europe. They beat up tons of people, terrorize their cities as crime gangs and spread their pestilent hate everywhere."

If by "movement" you mean a handful of nutters, by "tons of people" their wives, by "cities" their children and by "everywhere" the 3 meter perimeter around their own homes then you would be correct.

You've never been there, have you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the netherlands has one of the strongest neo-nazi movements in Europe. They beat up tons of people, terrorize their cities as crime gangs and spread their pestilent hate everywhere.&#8221;</p>
<p>If by &#8220;movement&#8221; you mean a handful of nutters, by &#8220;tons of people&#8221; their wives, by &#8220;cities&#8221; their children and by &#8220;everywhere&#8221; the 3 meter perimeter around their own homes then you would be correct.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve never been there, have you?</p>
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		<title>By: Wire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The murdered film-genius whose famous films drew millions into cinemas all over the world, Theo van Gogh, before he agitated against Muslims, was agitating equally distastefully against Jews. So he shares the history of the Neo-Nazi movements: from anti-semitic to anti-islamic xenophobia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The murdered film-genius whose famous films drew millions into cinemas all over the world, Theo van Gogh, before he agitated against Muslims, was agitating equally distastefully against Jews. So he shares the history of the Neo-Nazi movements: from anti-semitic to anti-islamic xenophobia.</p>
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