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		<title>By: Dacia Felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dacia Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised that you don&#039;t mention Dr Saed Arafat, of Palestianian origin, who reformed the Ambulance system in Romania and is a much respect sub-secretary in the Health Dept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised that you don&#8217;t mention Dr Saed Arafat, of Palestianian origin, who reformed the Ambulance system in Romania and is a much respect sub-secretary in the Health Dept.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Hulscher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Hulscher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the last person from a family of German origin who ruled Romania (till 1947), was king Michael von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen, who is still alive today. I wrote about him in Afoe as a comment on a article by Douglas Muir, which is to be found here: http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/frozen-conflicts-transnistria/

The comment is titled “THE KING OF TRANSNISTRIA “
Ron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the last person from a family of German origin who ruled Romania (till 1947), was king Michael von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen, who is still alive today. I wrote about him in Afoe as a comment on a article by Douglas Muir, which is to be found here: <a href="http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/frozen-conflicts-transnistria/" rel="nofollow">http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe/europe-and-the-world/frozen-conflicts-transnistria/</a></p>
<p>The comment is titled “THE KING OF TRANSNISTRIA “<br />
Ron.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Paul points out, it does not look as though Geoana will win, the current tally indicate that he will trail the incumbent Basescu by a few tenths of a percent. Nevertheless, this does not entirely erase the possibility of a Johannis premiership, since Basescu has also hinted at the possibility of appointing the mayor if he wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Paul points out, it does not look as though Geoana will win, the current tally indicate that he will trail the incumbent Basescu by a few tenths of a percent. Nevertheless, this does not entirely erase the possibility of a Johannis premiership, since Basescu has also hinted at the possibility of appointing the mayor if he wins.</p>
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		<title>By: Fruits and Votes &#187; Prof. Shugart's Blog &#187; More on the Romanian runoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fruits and Votes &#187; Prof. Shugart's Blog &#187; More on the Romanian runoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Fistful of Euros, Alex Harrowell notes that, after finishing second in the first round of the presidential election, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mihai Marcu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mihai Marcu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex,

While the idea of a German leading a government with Hungarian Party may seem strange, in reality it is not such a big deal. It is only a routine political arrangement. To quote a famous journalist, these elections marked a fight between the &quot;fear of tomorrow&quot; and &quot;hatred towards corrupt elites&quot; (the spooks you mentioned). Most likely, &quot;fear of tomorrow&quot; won.

1) Most likely the Social-Democrat candidate - Geoana-  will win (3 exit polls are in his favor, with 50.8 to 51.6%).

2) Klaus Johannis (the possible German PM) is most likely to be appointed due to his good public image.

3) Since 1996, the Hungarians have always been part of Government - also for the good public image in respect of minority rights which was (and maybe still is, but not so significant) a liability of our policies.

Having a Romanian PM of self-declared rroma origin - now that would be a true sign of change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,</p>
<p>While the idea of a German leading a government with Hungarian Party may seem strange, in reality it is not such a big deal. It is only a routine political arrangement. To quote a famous journalist, these elections marked a fight between the &#8220;fear of tomorrow&#8221; and &#8220;hatred towards corrupt elites&#8221; (the spooks you mentioned). Most likely, &#8220;fear of tomorrow&#8221; won.</p>
<p>1) Most likely the Social-Democrat candidate &#8211; Geoana-  will win (3 exit polls are in his favor, with 50.8 to 51.6%).</p>
<p>2) Klaus Johannis (the possible German PM) is most likely to be appointed due to his good public image.</p>
<p>3) Since 1996, the Hungarians have always been part of Government &#8211; also for the good public image in respect of minority rights which was (and maybe still is, but not so significant) a liability of our policies.</p>
<p>Having a Romanian PM of self-declared rroma origin &#8211; now that would be a true sign of change.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Muir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Muir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hungarians are still viewed askance, but -- as Paul correctly points out -- they&#039;re just slightly too big a voting bloc to be ignored,.  So every Romanian government buys them off with a couple of minor ministries and some juicy government contracts for the ethnic Hungarian party&#039;s leadership.  This has led to some disaffection, as little of this trickles down to ordinary Hungarians in Romania, but on the other hand if they start splitting their vote they&#039;re likely to lose what influence they have.

Ethnic Germans used to be viewed with a mixture of admiration and resentment.  As their numbers dwindled in the 1990s, the resentment faded, so that the admiration now (mostly) dominates. They&#039;re seen as hard-working, organized, and somewhat more honest than Romanians, and there&#039;s a belated realization that their mass exodus under and after Ceausescu was a huge loss for Romania.


Doug M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hungarians are still viewed askance, but &#8212; as Paul correctly points out &#8212; they&#8217;re just slightly too big a voting bloc to be ignored,.  So every Romanian government buys them off with a couple of minor ministries and some juicy government contracts for the ethnic Hungarian party&#8217;s leadership.  This has led to some disaffection, as little of this trickles down to ordinary Hungarians in Romania, but on the other hand if they start splitting their vote they&#8217;re likely to lose what influence they have.</p>
<p>Ethnic Germans used to be viewed with a mixture of admiration and resentment.  As their numbers dwindled in the 1990s, the resentment faded, so that the admiration now (mostly) dominates. They&#8217;re seen as hard-working, organized, and somewhat more honest than Romanians, and there&#8217;s a belated realization that their mass exodus under and after Ceausescu was a huge loss for Romania.</p>
<p>Doug M.</p>
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		<title>By: Are the Germans taking over Romania? &#124; afoe &#124; A Fistful of Euros &#8230; &#124; World News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Are the Germans taking over Romania? &#124; afoe &#124; A Fistful of Euros &#8230; &#124; World News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, it seems that Mircea Geoana, the Social Democratic candidate, will not win the elections after all and thus Mr. Johannis will, most likely, not head the government. 

I agree, it is a good thing that he made till here. Transylvanian Germans (and Germans generally) are regarded favorably in Romania; in this respect the Romanian case is different from, let&#039;s say, Poland or the Czech Republic.
Also bear in mind that Romania was ruled by a German dynasty for more than 80 years and that period is generally regarded favorably.
 
Also, the Hungarian party has taken part in every government between 1996-2008 so there&#039;s not really a big change in there. 

From that respect it really would have been something if the prime-minister were a Gypsy/Roma or a Hungarian ethnic.

I&#039;m not sure about the &quot;CIA operating a secret jail in the suburbs of Bucharest&quot;. I know there were articles written about this subject, I think it could have happened but I haven&#039;t seen any evidence until now. And anyway I don&#039;t see a connection between CIA secret jails and the level of ethnic tolerance of Romanians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, it seems that Mircea Geoana, the Social Democratic candidate, will not win the elections after all and thus Mr. Johannis will, most likely, not head the government. </p>
<p>I agree, it is a good thing that he made till here. Transylvanian Germans (and Germans generally) are regarded favorably in Romania; in this respect the Romanian case is different from, let&#8217;s say, Poland or the Czech Republic.<br />
Also bear in mind that Romania was ruled by a German dynasty for more than 80 years and that period is generally regarded favorably.</p>
<p>Also, the Hungarian party has taken part in every government between 1996-2008 so there&#8217;s not really a big change in there. </p>
<p>From that respect it really would have been something if the prime-minister were a Gypsy/Roma or a Hungarian ethnic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure about the &#8220;CIA operating a secret jail in the suburbs of Bucharest&#8221;. I know there were articles written about this subject, I think it could have happened but I haven&#8217;t seen any evidence until now. And anyway I don&#8217;t see a connection between CIA secret jails and the level of ethnic tolerance of Romanians.</p>
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		<title>By: P O Neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>P O Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It also caught the attention of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/world/europe/06romania.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New York Times&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also caught the attention of the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/world/europe/06romania.html" rel="nofollow">New York Times</a>.</p>
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